CHINA

He has changed America forever. And not in a good way. The old standard “western alliance”, is no more and won’t be again. Under no possible circumstances can Europe ever again, think it ok to rely on such an ally! Their political model is now so completely fkkuked up, that another Trump or worse could get to the Whitehouse.
You just have to hand it to Putin. Master stroke! And the game has barely begun.

Nah, Senate is full of hard-liner traditionalists who value NATO and long standing alliances.
 

robs1

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The Americans were listening to our communications for years and nobody worried. Now they are worried the Chinese are too. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Are the Americans doing all the cyber attacks ? Everybody's listening to everybody, knowledge is power but attacking countries tech is another thing altogether.
We need to pull away from buying their cheap sh!t, if they see we can hit their economy they may behave in a more responsible way,
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
Are the Americans doing all the cyber attacks ? Everybody's listening to everybody, knowledge is power but attacking countries tech is another thing altogether.
We need to pull away from buying their cheap sh!t, if they see we can hit their economy they may behave in a more responsible way,

They make expensive stuff too, it's just that we tend to specify that we want the cheap stuff and then complain when we get it. Can't really blame them for giving us what we ask for, rather than what we actually want.
 

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