Claas Arion 540 brake dragging

Joel R

Member
Arable Farmer
Hello everybody.
I've just bought a Arion 540 year 2008, after using it for a few hours I've noticed that it rolls a little bit sluggish. like when I stop in a slight uphill it would start to roll backwards but just a few cm and then stop. At first I thought that it was because of the 4wd being engaged but it does it even whit it switched off. I have lifted both back wheels off the ground and turned the wheels by hand. With both wheels off the ground and engine running turning one wheel the movement will go through the differential and the other wheel will turn the opposite direction. The force to turn the wheels is a bit more than I would have expected but not hard, if I do the same thing on the front wheels it's significantly easier to turn and the pinion gear and driveshaft would turn rather than the differentials inner gears. Now if I block one of the back wheels so that the pinion gear has to turn I still can manage to turn it but it gets hard, I could not turn it by standing on the side anymore but by standing behind it and pulling on the ribs of the tyre I could still turn it. Now of course the pinion has to turn by double speed because one of the back wheels standing still, but I think that It feels to heavy to turn the wheel. The question is what makes the wheels heavy to turn? There's no unusual noises coming from the back end. My suspicion is that something with the brakes is dragging, maybe the handbrake that sits on the pinion axle, i'm thinking something like a warped steel disc. The tractor has the same gearbox and backend as the Massey 6400-series. Does anyone here have some experience with something like this?

// Joel
 

del_boy

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Hello everybody.
I've just bought a Arion 540 year 2008, after using it for a few hours I've noticed that it rolls a little bit sluggish. like when I stop in a slight uphill it would start to roll backwards but just a few cm and then stop. At first I thought that it was because of the 4wd being engaged but it does it even whit it switched off. I have lifted both back wheels off the ground and turned the wheels by hand. With both wheels off the ground and engine running turning one wheel the movement will go through the differential and the other wheel will turn the opposite direction. The force to turn the wheels is a bit more than I would have expected but not hard, if I do the same thing on the front wheels it's significantly easier to turn and the pinion gear and driveshaft would turn rather than the differentials inner gears. Now if I block one of the back wheels so that the pinion gear has to turn I still can manage to turn it but it gets hard, I could not turn it by standing on the side anymore but by standing behind it and pulling on the ribs of the tyre I could still turn it. Now of course the pinion has to turn by double speed because one of the back wheels standing still, but I think that It feels to heavy to turn the wheel. The question is what makes the wheels heavy to turn? There's no unusual noises coming from the back end. My suspicion is that something with the brakes is dragging, maybe the handbrake that sits on the pinion axle, i'm thinking something like a warped steel disc. The tractor has the same gearbox and backend as the Massey 6400-series. Does anyone here have some experience with something like this?

// Joel
Ive had similar problems with a new holland tsa135, it felt like it was dragging. Turns out that at some point either the rear window or side door had got broken and some chards of glass had found there way into the handbrake mechanism and cable, even though the handbrake was moving freely the cable wasn't actually releasing fully. Probably not your problem but maybe worth a look and try disconnecting the handbrake at the linkage and test again
 

Joel R

Member
Arable Farmer
Forgot to write that but I actually checked the arm that the handbrake cable is pulling on and that moves freely when handbrake is not engaged. We have had sub-zero temperatures almost all winter so the cable was one of the first things that came to mind.
 

Joel R

Member
Arable Farmer
Yes it does have boosted brakes. Also I read on the the forum about failed pressure accumulators for the brake booster causing the master cylinders to crack, this was on the massey 7400 series. Do they happen to use the same master cylinders? I guess the system would be similar.
 

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