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Little wheat planted here. Most of what is looks crap. Ahdb total will be a load of rubbish I expect.
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Last weeks Frontier meeting suggested 10 million tonnes as a mid point of trade estimates between 8 and 12 million tonnes, down from an average of 16 million tonnes with a typical UK consumption of 13 million tonnes.what will be the2020 harvest 8 to 10 million tonnes
Last weeks Frontier meeting suggested 10 million tonnes as a mid point of trade estimates between 8 and 12 million tonnes, down from an average of 16 million tonnes with a typical UK consumption of 13 million tonnes.
What caught people’s attention was the estimated additional 161,000 ha of spring barley. If wheat reaches £180/t then a £30 discount for feed barley wouldn’t be a disaster. If wheat drops to £150 for new crop then barley doesn’t look too promising.
Depends what imported maize costs next year to set the wheat price
The UK will be like a 100 acre dairy farm with 300 cows, if we can buy in cheap feed, happy days
The market will always have a top and a bottom. The trick is learning where to buy/sell in that gap and not to panic or be greedy. Haven't learned it yet myself mindAnd if you can't buy in cheap feed happy days for me!
Last weeks Frontier meeting suggested 10 million tonnes as a mid point of trade estimates between 8 and 12 million tonnes, down from an average of 16 million tonnes with a typical UK consumption of 13 million tonnes.
What caught people’s attention was the estimated additional 161,000 ha of spring barley. If wheat reaches £180/t then a £30 discount for feed barley wouldn’t be a disaster. If wheat drops to £150 for new crop then barley doesn’t look too promising.
But you don’t sell it as group 4? You sell it as 10.7, 180, 76 hard wheat.We have had merchants tell us we can't sell Siskin as a hard group 4 since technically it's a group 2. I argued that it's still a hard wheat just slightly better quality but all I got was "but it's a group so you can't sell it as a group 4"!
Quite true.If uk is 6m tons of wheat short, an extra 900k tons of feed barley won't make the slightest bit of difference though will it.
Last weeks Frontier meeting suggested 10 million tonnes as a mid point of trade estimates between 8 and 12 million tonnes, down from an average of 16 million tonnes with a typical UK consumption of 13 million tonnes.
What caught people’s attention was the estimated additional 161,000 ha of spring barley. If wheat reaches £180/t then a £30 discount for feed barley wouldn’t be a disaster. If wheat drops to £150 for new crop then barley doesn’t look too promising.
Little wheat planted here. Most of what is looks crap. Ahdb total will be a load of rubbish I expect.
there could be more barley area than wheat in the uk or a lot of nocropIs the additional 161,000 hectares maybe a tad conservative? East Midlands/Yorkshire/West Midlands worst hit by no autumn planting of winter wheat.
East Midlands winter wheat and barley area usually about 360,000 hectares. Say 30% planted that leaves at todays date some 220,000 hectares looking for a spring crop. Half spring barley (110,000ha) other half mix of Spring Wheat/Oats/beans and fallow.
Yorkshire and West Midlands other two areas autumn sowings badly hit. Same there?
I have no idea really, so Frontier may well be right.
Oh, and I forgot to include the failed Oilseed Rape land. Usual planted area East Midlands 150,000 hectares. Half that possibly failed - more barley?
You lot are all forgetting that there's over 2 million tonnes of old crop wheat to export before harvest 2020, we are not export competitive due to domestic prices being higher than export parity and that's before we think about barley & the huge increase in new crop soring barley sowings. Some wheat will be carried forwards into new crop - how many farmers can do that? I won't and can't even though I know my stores won't be as full this year. I'm very glad to be 90% sold on old crop and 60% sold on new crop at better levels than currently available.
locally i think this is far worse than 2012 or 2000 now for cereals not to mention osr
even what got drilled for many will be written off now
i’m going to stick my neck out and say 6 million T / £200 harvest feed
You lot are all forgetting that there's over 2 million tonnes of old crop wheat to export before harvest 2020, we are not export competitive due to domestic prices being higher than export parity and that's before we think about barley & the huge increase in new crop soring barley sowings. Some wheat will be carried forwards into new crop - how many farmers can do that? I won't and can't even though I know my stores won't be as full this year. I'm very glad to be 90% sold on old crop and 60% sold on new crop at better levels than currently available.