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Commercial fishing pools&lakes

Daniel Larn

Member
24 hour fishing adds the complexities of security and needing pre-bookings, but could work well where there is someone already on site dealing with camping or caravans.
It's pitch a bivvy on the peg, the owners live on the site.

They have a nice little match lake as well, plus a syndicate lake and one for catfish.

I love float fishing in match lakes, you have no idea what you're going to catch. Far more fun than cracking some carp rods out and waiting for a bite alarm to wake you up.
 

Yale

Member
Livestock Farmer
The fishing lake up the road from us changed hands two years ago.

The new guy has fallen prey to new draconian measures by natural resources wales (the old EA),he has had to drain all but his main lake as New flood prevention measure mean the dams did not meet regulations and would be prohibitively expensive to bring up to date.

I’d say be fully aware of the regulations and inspection costs before taking on a dam and lake,they have changed considerably lately.
 

Verity92

Member
Location
Yorkshire
We have a pond, built on land which wasn’t suitable for much else. Springs keep it topped up and there’s a stream parallel that takes the overflow.
We have a partnership with a local fishing club whereby they pay a rent for the pond, and take half the ticket sales. But in return they restock, take all admissions (very time consuming), and maintain the site.
Which leaves me with little else, but the downside is the traffic (if it’s past your yard), gives wrong’uns a excuse to go snooping, certain people who like to eat the fish oh and the idiots you get...which I can go into detail on
 

Pond digger

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
East Yorkshire
We have a pond, built on land which wasn’t suitable for much else. Springs keep it topped up and there’s a stream parallel that takes the overflow.
We have a partnership with a local fishing club whereby they pay a rent for the pond, and take half the ticket sales. But in return they restock, take all admissions (very time consuming), and maintain the site.
Which leaves me with little else, but the downside is the traffic (if it’s past your yard), gives wrong’uns a excuse to go snooping, certain people who like to eat the fish oh and the idiots you get...which I can go into detail on
That sounds like a good arangement. Running a fishery can be very tying, but like most business ventures, the more you put in, the more you get out. Otters and Cormorants can be a major issue.
 
fishing is such a broad spectrum, i would pay several thousand a year to fish a secluded lake with good stock (40lb plus) and a very selected and limited clientele. on the other hand there are people happy float fishing and won't pay more then £10/day. both directions have drawbacks and bonuses from the landowners veiwpoint!
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
fishing is a gold mine if done correctly, the stats for fishing as an industry are awesome, more people fish in the UK than regularly play football! people will pay for, and travel for good fishing!

I thought so too, but last week when I was in Carmarthen's only tackle shop - now closing and changing to a 'Craft Centre' :rolleyes: - the very pleasant owner explained that there simply aren't the numbers of anglers there used to be, and the fishing side of business is no longer viable. Interestingly, he thought this nothing to do with the internet, since the great decline is only a few years old.

That written, throbbing metropolis thought it is, Carmarthen does have a fairly small population and, even with a decline in angling numbers, anyone close to a very large population centre or holiday destination should be alright. But worth bearing in mind nonetheless.
 

Daniel Larn

Member
I thought so too, but last week when I was in Carmarthen's only tackle shop - now closing and changing to a 'Craft Centre' :rolleyes: - the very pleasant owner explained that there simply aren't the numbers of anglers there used to be, and the fishing side of business is no longer viable. Interestingly, he thought this nothing to do with the internet, since the great decline is only a few years old.

That written, throbbing metropolis thought it is, Carmarthen does have a fairly small population and, even with a decline in angling numbers, anyone close to a very large population centre or holiday destination should be alright. But worth bearing in mind nonetheless.
On that front I can say that I've gone to doing all my tackle shopping online now, it's a hell of a lot cheaper and I can always get exactly what I want.

I think the bulk of the big fishing stores online have now whittled down to 4 or 5 big players, so they will be starting to put more pressure on traditional shops now that competition online is less fierce.

Down here in Plymouth there aren't really any shops that stock decent course gear, and when they do the range is very limited, although Trago is pretty good now for baits and terminal tackle.
 
I get all my gear online, it's cheaper and more convenient.

The only reason I go to a shop is for heavy stuff (groundbait & pellets) or for fresh bait the day before. My local family run shop has now been taken over by a national chain and has become sh!t overnight.

Decent bait is all about volume, similar to decent beer from pubs.
 

Daniel Larn

Member
Oddly enough, the chap said that the 'bait run' was a major factor in his having had enough; the amount spoiling and having to be binned being very depressing.

Again, he really didn't think the internet was a problem, just an aging fishing population.
That does sound strange, as others have said before I thought bait kept most of these small local shops in business.

It's the only thing I will buy locally now, on the odd occasion I need any worms/maggots.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Must be, perhaps they weren't as fresh as could be?

I hate it when you get a bad tub of maggots and have your gear hoying of ammonia!
I'm nothing more than an occasional fisher, so haven't the depth of knowledge to do more than report, but I think it was his wanting to maintain a good stock of fresh bait that meant so much motorway work.
 

Daniel Larn

Member
I'm nothing more than an occasional fisher, so haven't the depth of knowledge to do more than report, but I think it was his wanting to maintain a good stock of fresh bait that meant so much motorway work.
Yeah, I suppose, I could see that causing problems.

Thinking about it, a lot of the bigger fisheries will sell baits on the day now. They aren't the cheapest, but it's very fresh and arguably a lot more convenient.

Perhaps the big draws nearby are taking the trade to on-site tackle shops instead?
 

Jim t

Member
Location
Shropshire
We are in the process of renovating an old pool that has silted up completely, having cleared the silt out what is the best way to build the outlet? I was thinking a twin walled pipe with a 90 bend on the end and vertical pipe coming up to then be cut off to determine the pool height, but I’m concerned about water seeping round the pipe. Pool size 18 meters diameter and 2.5 meter deep . Any suggestions on the cheapest and best overflow set up ?
 

Matt

Member
We are in the process of renovating an old pool that has silted up completely, having cleared the silt out what is the best way to build the outlet? I was thinking a twin walled pipe with a 90 bend on the end and vertical pipe coming up to then be cut off to determine the pool height, but I’m concerned about water seeping round the pipe. Pool size 18 meters diameter and 2.5 meter deep . Any suggestions on the cheapest and best overflow set up ?
Why cant you build your dam and set the twin wall at the height you want the level to be at?
No pipe in the bottom of Dam. If the water does happen to seap by pipe, which as it is ribbed I doubt it would not a big issue to sort or much water lost.
When you put pipe in make sure you don't put too big a lumps of soil round pipe to then try and track the air out of soil
 

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