Cost of telehandler ownership vs tractor loader

[Nearly]

Don't buy this one.
One careful owner then me.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/jcb-525-...270016?hash=item440fb49900:g:YWQAAOSwZr9ZsbSd

 

[Ducati899]

Cost of ownership isn’t to bad but just depends on how well you treat the the machine,my loadall will be 5 years old in February and apart from servicing has cost me £129 in repairs,used every day of the year

 

[vantage]

Cost of ownership isn’t to bad but just depends on how well you treat the the machine,my loadall will be 5 years old in February and apart from servicing has cost me £129 in repairs,used every day of the year

That is amazingly low! Did the machine come with extended warranty?

 

[Ducati899]

No just standard jcb warranty,it’s a 526-56,it’s been a brilliant machine and have thought about changing it but it’s been so reliable I’m not sure it’s worth getting rid of,cost me 40k straight deal brand new in 2013,my tractors come from same dealer though and storesman did say the other day if they had all customers like me they’d be out of business [emoji23]

 

[Smiffy101]

Would a pivot steer loader work for you ??
Same speed advantages as telehandler but smaller simpler and lower initial purchase price
If you have managed with a loader tractor i shouldnt think you would notice the lack of reach a loader has over a telehandler

 

[goldtop]

We face a very similar situation, i would love to have a telehandler around the yard to do most the loader work, but can't quite find or justify the money to have a second machine in the shed. 2 second hand machines could be fairly cheap if they're reliable, but you could end up with 2 money pits if you're unlucky. I would stick with your current policy and buy new every 3 years with a warranty and good dealer backup. IF the milk price holds up and you have a £20K spare in the future, buy yourself a second hand handler and see what difference it makes.

 

[early riser]

What would be a typical cost for a handler to be dealer serviced every say 500hrs? @ACEngineering

Loader tractor is dealer serviced every 250hrs to keep it spot on, costs approx £200 per service, apart from big 1,000hr service which is nearer £400.

 

[rob h]

what is the likely cost to change the tractor next time .why not keep the tractor you have then use the 15 /20 k you would have spent on a used tele handler and see how it goes

 

[jondear]

What would be a typical cost for a handler to be dealer serviced every say 500hrs? @ACEngineering

Loader tractor is dealer serviced every 250hrs to keep it spot on, costs approx £200 per service, apart from big 1,000hr service which is nearer £400.

About £1 hr for 500 hr service . That's what a basic Jcb one is .

 

[Mr Charisma]

So we had a ex demo 535/60 turnup yesterday to replace our older of 2 JD 3800 artic loaders ,she was 2003 reg , we had it in 2006 with 3000 hrs , left yesterday with near on 13000 hrs ,
since we had it we have put 1 set of tyres on her ,
a ECU £1800
New pads on boom , not sure of price
a drop link £600 (connects crowd ram to carriage )
a new radiator , can't remember price but heading towards a 4 figure sum
Engine head work at 9000 hrs ,,,,,, £2000
And a couple of doors which were self inflicted damage £500 each
the last 5 years she has had a easier workload when we started to run 2 machines

Just edited a few of the prices which were wrong

 

[Horn&corn]

Jcb 536-60
500 hr is £500
1000 hr is £1000 hence £1.50 for services per hr. dealer prices with smart farm services

 

[ACEngineering]

What would be a typical cost for a handler to be dealer serviced every say 500hrs? @ACEngineering

Loader tractor is dealer serviced every 250hrs to keep it spot on, costs approx £200 per service, apart from big 1,000hr service which is nearer £400.

This the local dealers fixed charges here. I come in a fair bit cheaper normally still using genuine filters and genuine axle oil, other oils are normal stuff you can pick up anywhere but i'm not happy with any off the shelf axle oil suppliers recommend as its just not anything like the genuine stuff.

Also from speaking to customers recently I'm a lot more thorough and spend longer on the job!

There's another dealer about too and I think they charge a little more?

IMO recently I have not been doing many services? all rebuilds and repairs. I have 2 machines booked in this month though and possibly another that's still in warranty but customer not happy with dealers efforts?

Edit also just to add the models covered on that fixed price service? A MLT 627 is a lot cheaper to service than any of the rest! partly due to much cheaper hyd and fuel filters, and so long as they are clean they are easier/quicker to service and slightly less oil used too.
I don't do a fixed charge I charge to do the job fair.
If say a 634 or 735 etc with merc engine then the air filters are about 3 to 4 times the cost of the perkins ones (Manitou RRP) so customer would be getting a much better deal.

 

[D14]

Currently run 120hp loader tractor to carry out all tasks on 120 cow/200ac dairy farm. Thinking seriously about moving to a small telehandler e.g. Kramer for feeding up/scraping out/cubicle bed management.

What concerns me is the potential cost of telehandler ownership. I have heard some fairly frightening tales of repair costs from neighbours over the years, but I have no personal experience.

Does anyone have any realistic costs of ownership in terms of £/hr that they would care to share? Need some half accurate costs for future budgets

By way of comparison, the average cost of owning my last three loader tractors (excluding fuel) changed at 3yrs/3000hrs can be broken down as follows:

Depreciation £4.67/hr
Routine servicing every 250hrs £0.62/hr
Repairs £0.36/hr
Insurance £0.70/hr

TOTAL £6.35/hr

n.b. Tyre wear included within depreciation as it is always traded in on original tyres.

How is this likely to compare to running a telehandler

Thanks in advance

The Merlo with the rear pto and 3 point linkage would suit you well. They’ve been around a while now so must be some used ones about. Loads of Merlos around us and people love them.

 

[it's not over]

20 Yr old Matbro here, 1200 hrs in 3 years. Spent approx £1200 on repairs and servicing. Hardly let us down at all in that time.

They don't make them any more. By today's standards simple easy run machine .

 

[it's not over]

Currently run 120hp loader tractor to carry out all tasks on 120 cow/200ac dairy farm. Thinking seriously about moving to a small telehandler e.g. Kramer for feeding up/scraping out/cubicle bed management.

What concerns me is the potential cost of telehandler ownership. I have heard some fairly frightening tales of repair costs from neighbours over the years, but I have no personal experience.

Does anyone have any realistic costs of ownership in terms of £/hr that they would care to share? Need some half accurate costs for future budgets

By way of comparison, the average cost of owning my last three loader tractors (excluding fuel) changed at 3yrs/3000hrs can be broken down as follows:

Depreciation £4.67/hr
Routine servicing every 250hrs £0.62/hr
Repairs £0.36/hr
Insurance £0.70/hr

TOTAL £6.35/hr

n.b. Tyre wear included within depreciation as it is always traded in on original tyres.

How is this likely to compare to running a telehandler

Thanks in advance

If you buy second hand are are the only driver you'd be suprised how long it can last with only minor repairs. It's the idiot driver is the biggest down fall on old machines
I've a 13 year old mla and drive it like a baby.

 

[Rowland]

We face a very similar situation, i would love to have a telehandler around the yard to do most the loader work, but can't quite find or justify the money to have a second machine in the shed. 2 second hand machines could be fairly cheap if they're reliable, but you could end up with 2 money pits if you're unlucky. I would stick with your current policy and buy new every 3 years with a warranty and good dealer backup. IF the milk price holds up and you have a £20K spare in the future, buy yourself a second hand handler and see what difference it makes.

If you have a telehandler and a tractor your tractor would last about 3 times as long as you would use it a hell of a lot less until someone has had a telehandler you don't realise how versatile it is . I never be without one now .

 

[Nearly]

The Merlo with the rear pto and 3 point linkage would suit you well. They’ve been around a while now so must be some used ones about. Loads of Merlos around us and people love them.

Any machine designed to do 2 jobs will always be a compromise.

 

[Rowland]

Any machine designed to do 2 jobs will always be a compromise.

Tongue in cheek here but how many jobs dose a tractor do ?

 

[Nearly]

Tongue in cheek here but how jobs dose a tractor do ?

One, it's a tractor.

I was meaning my own pet compromise here.

 

[mo!]

Tongue in cheek here but how jobs dose a tractor do ?

Is it as good at loading as a telehandler?