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Countryfile tonight

I never took it as anyone commiting suicide, merely that there were unlikely to be any gay/happy farmers about because they're all unhappy.
I'm not sure if you watched the programme, but it touched on homosexuals and how some had committed or had come close to committing suicide due to people being unaccepting of them. So you don't have to take it from that post that this was what was being discussed, because that is what the section of the programme that was being discussed was about.

The post I was originally referring to what was a play on words, like when a child uses a swear word in another context so it feels immune from being reprimanded.

E.g.

Or do you asume that all homosexual men are seconds away from stringing them selves up? Because I took your comment above as you assuming that all gay men must be suicidal.

Where do I say that this is what my opinion or assumption is?
 
I'm not sure if you watched the programme, but it touched on homosexuals and how some had committed or had come close to committing suicide due to people being unaccepting of them. So you don't have to take it from that post that this was what was being discussed, because that is what the section of the programme that was being discussed was about.

The post I was originally referring to what was a play on words, like when a child uses a swear word in another context so it feels immune from being reprimanded.

E.g.



Where do I say that this is what my opinion or assumption is?
"So because a word has several definitions it's fine to make a joke out of those committing suicide or in a suicidal state"
That is where you said it. You took some thing from the original post that was not intended, as I did from your post. I took from your quote above that you consider all gay people suicidal. I'm likely mistaken but that is how I took it.
 
"So because a word has several definitions it's fine to make a joke out of those committing suicide or in a suicidal state"
That is where you said it. You took some thing from the original post that was not intended, as I did from your post. I took from your quote above that you consider all gay people suicidal. I'm likely mistaken but that is how I took it.
Yes, totally mistaken.
 
What's in a word? Depending upon the tone, intonation, delivery, and placing within a sentence it's whole meaning and intent can be as changeable as our British weather. And yet a word delivered with good, or neutral, intention can be be received as having been intended to offend or hurt the recipient. Like arrows loosed from the bow; we are unable to recall much of what we try to communicate and can only hope that the recipient is closely attuned to what we are trying to communicate to them. Or that they will ask for clarification, before responding, or reacting.

Some sage has written that we should be slow to speak and swift to listen. We all hear quite well but how often do we listen; really listen? And how often is our hearing distorted by history and prejudice?

Sadly, I missed Country File due to being stranded abroad and struggling to get by, but that is an other story!

Chris :)
 

An Gof

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Location
Cornwall
Thoroughly enjoyed the programme tonight. Makes me realise how lucky we are to have the Queen. Let’s hope Charles doesn’t bu**er it all up by making it all Organic.
That creamery was something else.
 

ajcc

Member
Livestock Farmer
BBC sanitisation at its modern day worst. Sandringham is about field sports. Not a gun, hardly a pheasant or a fox in sight, why else would Royal family move to Sandringham for a couple of months every winter? Sandringham Sydney and Bill Meldrum didn’t win field trials by picking a dummy from other side of a pond on a summers day.
Enjoyed much of old cine film and seeing behind scenes/staff but the countryfile presenters are crap.
 

Wolds Beef

Member
Visited Sandringham on an NFU trip last week! Yes it is to go all organic with a phased change! They have bought a Chameleon drill/cultivator for use on the organics. Very interesting meeting with the Farm Manager. Did not see the cattle!
WB
 

An Gof

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Location
Cornwall
Visited Sandringham on an NFU trip last week! Yes it is to go all organic with a phased change! They have bought a Chameleon drill/cultivator for use on the organics. Very interesting meeting with the Farm Manager. Did not see the cattle!
WB

Charles influence already taking over. Very sad thought the Queen had more sense.
 
Tonight’s programme featured lupins as a replacement for soya.

Showing my age here, but I remember lupins being promoted 20 years ago. What happened? Why didn’t they take off as a home grown protein source?
 

yellowbelly

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Livestock Farmer
Location
N.Lincs
Tonight’s programme featured lupins as a replacement for soya.

Showing my age here, but I remember lupins being promoted 20 years ago. What happened? Why didn’t they take off as a home grown protein source?
Can't remember - we used some that a local bloke grew for a couple of years but he stopped growing 'em but I don't know why.
Makes sense to use home grown peas and beans (and lupins for that matter) IMHO.
 

An Gof

Member
Location
Cornwall
Tonight’s programme featured lupins as a replacement for soya.

Showing my age here, but I remember lupins being promoted 20 years ago. What happened? Why didn’t they take off as a home grown protein source?

20 + years ago Lupins were being promoted by Robin Appel Ltd and one of his very good representatives was a certain David McNaughton. David set up Soya UK and is/has been trying to reinvigorate Lupins. They weren't that successful first time around and i expect it will be the same this time.
Now what do you think will be best, yellow ones, blue ones (the original favourite of Robin Appel) or white ones (Davids preference).
If i remember correctly Dieta was the original variety of choice for white lupins. Trouble was they were indeterminate and not best suited to dry harvesting. Blue Lupins were more successful for dry harvesting but the problem was always yield and getting enough to meet compounders annual needs.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Tonight’s programme featured lupins as a replacement for soya.

Showing my age here, but I remember lupins being promoted 20 years ago. What happened? Why didn’t they take off as a home grown protein source?
Yes i grew some back then, there was a high subsidy per acre :sneaky:

from memory, numero uno ...poor yielding,
not very competitiive against weed , late harvesting.but they did stand upright unlike our peas

but did feed the few ton we had to sheep.

I think no ;proper developement of varieties for agri use., since.
 
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I thought MVF had a thing for them too? Could be wrong though.

The chap on CFile was intending combining his own crop, rolling it and feeding to his own cattle.
Higher protein - 33%- than either peas or beans.
 
Yes i grew some back then, there was a high subsidy per acre :sneaky:

from memory, numero uno ...poor yielding,
not very competitiive against weed , late harvesting.

but did feed the few ton we had to sheep.

I think no ;proper developement of varieties for agri use., since.

Thanks. That’s sort of what I was remembering.
Obviously older by a mile than Adam, who seemed to think this was next agricultural Klondike. :whistle:
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
Going by how it went last time there will be no Klondyke for Lupins ....... but i stand to be corrected. Expect similar for Soya Beans in the UK

Careful. Mr Gove will say you are not showing the true innovative, entrepreneurial Brexit spirit outlined in his consultation paper! I knew we out to turn this thread into a Brexit thread - most others are!. Couldn't resist.
 

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