Crane on a Fert Spinner?

[Selectamatic]

Thinking out loud...

I've no experience of a fertiliser spinner crane, but I recon it would be handy for what I need.

Question is, would my little tractor handle it? Top dress tractor of choice is usually a DB 996 or 1294.

I guess that the crane would have to be on the floor to raise the bag, otherwise the tractors nose would go skyward, or some hydraulic linkage overload may occur?

Who here has one, and would it work for me on a tiddly tractor?

Thank You!

 

[Sharpy]

I have one, a Kuhn Levsak on a JD 6620/vicon rotaflow combination. A very good crane, strong and capable of handling a 600kg spreader with over 2500kg of fert in it, but it pushes the spreader back about a foot or so, obviously increasing lift effort and front end lightness. I would say it will be trial and error as to what will work for you, some cranes are lighter and have much less offset. What spreader are you working with and how much fert do you carry?

 

[maxxum5120]

We have a richford crane on a amazone zam .picking bags off trailer requires mixture of crane use and hydraulic lift use as you need on ours to lower spreader to see what you are doing when hooking up bag. You do not need to put any extra weight on linkage as bags you lift only go in spreader anyway

 

[clbarclay]

The weight should be the same, but if the bag is picked up behind the spreader then some of that weight has a lot more leaverage than when the spreader is full, which could cause a tractor to tip.

 

[Netherfield]

We did have one, but it was on a 1690 originally, then Ford 7840. Can't see any difference whichever tractor in your case, I'd invest in some front weights, due to leaverage as stated by @clbarclay.

 

[Exfarmer]

Unless things have changed they put the spreader back and add weight. Think a 996 will struggle, you really need a 100 hp tractor to handle them

 

[Boohoo]

Don't you have 50kg bags in Wales?

 

[glasshouse]

Thinking out loud...

I've no experience of a fertiliser spinner crane, but I recon it would be handy for what I need.

Question is, would my little tractor handle it? Top dress tractor of choice is usually a DB 996 or 1294.

I guess that the crane would have to be on the floor to raise the bag, otherwise the tractors nose would go skyward, or some hydraulic linkage overload may occur?

Who here has one, and would it work for me on a tiddly tractor?

Thank You!

Too heavy for 996
Too much front weight needed which is dangerous on hills

 

[CORK]

Thinking out loud...

I've no experience of a fertiliser spinner crane, but I recon it would be handy for what I need.

Question is, would my little tractor handle it? Top dress tractor of choice is usually a DB 996 or 1294.

I guess that the crane would have to be on the floor to raise the bag, otherwise the tractors nose would go skyward, or some hydraulic linkage overload may occur?

Who here has one, and would it work for me on a tiddly tractor?

Thank You!

Have used a crane with a good number of years. Our land is scattered and we only have one tractor so I find it invaluable.
You’d definitely need a 4wd tractor and I’d imagine 100hp.
Cashel engineering do a relatively light weight crane over here (southern Ireland) as do Rossmore engineering. For spreaders of 2tn capacity plus I’d go for a heavier crane like the Kuhn mentioned above or a Bogballe crane (which we now use).

Very impressed with the Bogballe crane. It can handle at least a 2.5tn spreader and has a lift capacity of 1.3tn, it allows me to lift 2x500kg bags at a time which speeds up the job.

Cranes do push the weight back a bit though as others have mentioned.

 

[Selectamatic]

Don't you have 50kg bags in Wales?

25kg...

 

[Selectamatic]

Thank you all, I think you've answered my question.

 

[James]

Have used a crane with a good number of years. Our land is scattered and we only have one tractor so I find it invaluable.
You’d definitely need a 4wd tractor and I’d imagine 100hp.
Cashel engineering do a relatively light weight crane over here (southern Ireland) as do Rossmore engineering. For spreaders of 2tn capacity plus I’d go for a heavier crane like the Kuhn mentioned above or a Bogballe crane (which we now use).

Very impressed with the Bogballe crane. It can handle at least a 2.5tn spreader and has a lift capacity of 1.3tn, it allows me to lift 2x500kg bags at a time which speeds up the job.

Cranes do push the weight back a bit though as others have mentioned.

Doesn't the cashel one just lift 500kg extended?

 

[CORK]

Doesn't the cashel one just lift 500kg extended?

I haven’t used one but I’d say you’re right

 

[Yale]

Don't you have 50kg bags in Wales?

@Selectamatic is too much of a young pup to remember 50 kg bags.

Its a long time since we used them and I don’t miss them one bit.

 

[Yale]

@Selectamatic ,if you spread with your loader tractor you can either lift the bag on to a strong limb on a tree,cut to make suitable, ,or get one of those antique old crane gantry things for taking engines out.You could even fabricate one from rsj.Then back under the suspended bag.

 

[TripleSix]

Cheap hiab bolted to the trailer with a set of long pipes

 

[Boohoo]

@Selectamatic is too much of a young pup to remember 50 kg bags.

Its a long time since we used them and I don’t miss them one bit.

I'll be ordering 2 ton of 50kg bags, same as every year and I'll miss them when they're no longer available.

 

[Yale]

I'll be ordering 2 ton of 50kg bags, same as every year and I'll miss them when they're no longer available.

Didn’t know you could still get them.

 

[Boohoo]

Didn’t know you could still get them.

They're still common here in Northern Ireland. I wouldn't buy more than a pallet of them per year though.

 

[James]

I'll be ordering 2 ton of 50kg bags, same as every year and I'll miss them when they're no longer available.

Same here handy for the grazing paddocks