I would most likely be grazing it with in lamb ewes. It’s a field out in its own so there will be no grass run back available. That was my thinking in leaving out the bales. It’s not light land
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DD turnips into permanent pasture without glyphosate
- Thread starter Andyt880
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- Location
- Acton Scott, South Shropshire
I would agree with the comments above that it will probably fail - but, the Kiwis use what they call chemical topping - I am not up on my sprays so I cant remember which one it was but it basically backens the grass for a few weeks to give new seeds or brassicas a chance to get going. @JD-Kid
I would expect you would get the 3 inch plants with no bulb in normal circumstances - the grasses would just outcompete.
I would expect you would get the 3 inch plants with no bulb in normal circumstances - the grasses would just outcompete.
- Location
- Ceredigion
Chemical topping is 8 floz of Roundup .but if it's old pasture it's a waste of time unless it's mowed short
Personally I’d spray the grass before it is cut.
Then DD in the turnips with slug pellets.
Monitor the slits for slugs and broadcast a further 2kg per acre if needed.
Then every day when the leaves are only just out monitor the whole circumference of the field every day for signs of flea beetle.
As soon as there is any spattering on leaves go in with a Permethrin type spray and do it straight away.
Witha bit of luck you may get away with no flea beetle.
Personally would go on with a foliage feed of nutrients and possibly boron when there is reasonable leaf cover.
Then DD in the turnips with slug pellets.
Monitor the slits for slugs and broadcast a further 2kg per acre if needed.
Then every day when the leaves are only just out monitor the whole circumference of the field every day for signs of flea beetle.
As soon as there is any spattering on leaves go in with a Permethrin type spray and do it straight away.
Witha bit of luck you may get away with no flea beetle.
Personally would go on with a foliage feed of nutrients and possibly boron when there is reasonable leaf cover.
I would plough it quite severely with a plough. 
And chuck the turnip seed in the bin, and sow cucumbers.
And chuck the turnip seed in the bin, and sow cucumbers.
I’ll give that a go in the spring time after the turnips! Much feed value in cucumbers?I would plough it quite severely with a plough.
And chuck the turnip seed in the bin, and sow cucumbers.
exmoor dave
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- Location
- exmoor, uk
I don't think the FR was strong enough to out compete the grass
We were in exactly the same place last august, new to brassicas, we direct drilled forage rape (from @Great In Grass ) into old sprayed off PP, the thinking being that the mat of dead grass would help carry stock better, but to be honest by the time we grazed it in feb/ march there wasn't really any dead grass left, I do however think the less disturbed ground carried stock well.
I started not feeding any extra forage but giving a grass run back for a couple weeks, then shutting the the stock (ewe hoggs) on it exclusively...... the stock did not like this at all.
Then it came in very wet so I gave up for a couple weeks, then it came in very cold with those easterly winds.... that was abit of a a tense week or so, but apart of abit of browning and wilting on the leaves here and there, the crop was ok and weirdly the ewe lambs hoovered it up then, I did give them some hay too, which they picked at.
Then it came in mild and the crop started forming seed head.... the ewe hoggs went even madder for it!
exmoor dave
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- exmoor, uk
Oh also rabbits were a mega problem til the crop got high enough, a fair bit of shooting was required, but on the worse side of the field I ended up putting up 250m of electric rabbit net on a 12v energiser and big solar panel, this worked a treat
spin cycle
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- north norfolk
plough it if you don't wanna spray it
It’s not that I don’t want to spray it. I want to keep the ground as solid as possible so that it will carry them better during winter. I will spray it off and plough next spring after the crop has been grazed
Sprayed off a week ago and drilled today with redstart hybrid rape
Old perm pasture rust had outwintered cattle. Deliberately hammered it over winter to help break up the turf.
Will be reseeded in the autumn.
No way would I do it with out killing off grass and weeds before drilling.
Old perm pasture rust had outwintered cattle. Deliberately hammered it over winter to help break up the turf.
Will be reseeded in the autumn.
No way would I do it with out killing off grass and weeds before drilling.
I grew a crop of redstart last year. I was well pleased with it. It seems a fairly easy thing to grow and it grazed a fair few lambs at the end of summer
Did you give it much fert? And how long after drilling did you start to graze it?
Not grown a summer forage crop before but wanted a break crop before reseeding in the autumn.
- Location
- Ceredigion
If you direct drill you it will be a lot firmer than if you plough , I'm a firm believer in putting a mix of seeds on as well ,somethings don't suit the soil or the weather at the time , rape turnips annual clover, Italian Ryegrass
From memory I put 2cwt to the acre on it and it had a good covering of FYM as well.
I started to graze it at 10 weeks I think
Yes I was considering a mix of turnips and rape as well. The two should go together nicely?
Just had a look back there and I actually started to graze it at 8 weeks. That’s a photo the day before I let the lambs in to it
I put in a mix of fodder tape and turnips last year. Mainly as it went in late and was worries the turnips would not com3 to much worked very well.
abit like this put it in too late for us
