Docks in a new ley

[hilux]

Reseeded a field 5 weeks ago and as expected a lot of docks have come through. There is no clover sown in the ley. What is the best spray to kill the docks and approx. cost please?

 

[Bury the Trash]

@deleted user 837354

 

[deleted user 837354]

Polo and hatchet on a new ley will sort it all out. Depending on the rates used and size of weeds it wont be any more than £15/acre, probably more like £10.

Check the maximum dose of hatchet on new leys as I cant remember. If the docks are some size now 0.5L/ha will be too low.

 

[Loftyrules]

Hurler is also approved for dock control in new leys so worth a look

 

[Still Farming]

Spot spray easier maybe but if field full different.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Hurler is the same as hatchet. There are dozens of names for the stuff.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Fluroxypyr straight .its very kind to young grass

 

[deleted user 837354]

I would advise the use of Headland Polo (or similar) with hatchet or whatever fluroxypyr product you have. If you use fluroxypyr alone do not be surprised if some mythical weed continues to grow in your new ley.

 

[Skintagain]

Fluroxypyr straight .its very kind to young grass

How did you go on with the starane? We sprayed 60 acres in May with starane, it was clean as a whistle when cut in July but some fields have come back riddled and have been doxstarred for second cut others are still clean. Been a weird year for weeds after last year.

 

[deleted user 837354]

How did you go on with the starane? We sprayed 60 acres in May with starane, it was clean as a whistle when cut in July but some fields have come back riddled and have been doxstarred for second cut others are still clean. Been a weird year for weeds after last year.

It's a weird product and I would not use it alone on mature docks from roots and expect 100% results. Better to use doxstar or pastor and bolster it with additional doxstar. Going too early with the product I found gives unreliable results. Best done after second cut when the weather is warmer.

 

[milkloss]

I would advise the use of Headland Polo (or similar) with hatchet or whatever fluroxypyr product you have. If you use fluroxypyr alone do not be surprised if some mythical weed continues to grow in your new ley.

I was recommended to straight headland polo on one of our new leys by Ollie as above and it sorted the docks and fat hen very well, we didn’t mix fluroxypyr with it though. A few docks coming back now two years later but that’s from seed stock, otherwise the ley is very clean.

 

[deleted user 837354]

I was recommended to straight headland polo on one of our new leys by Ollie as above and it sorted the docks and fat hen very well, we didn’t mix fluroxypyr with it though. A few docks coming back now two years later but that’s from seed stock, otherwise the ley is very clean.

I've used Polo and Starane on new leys more times than I could count. It's cheap and effective on weed seedlings and at the right time, before they begin to crowd the grass out.

Basically every ley I ever sold I got sprayed more or less. The timing was often a bit out but 99% of them got done. It's the most effective weed control you will ever do in grass.

 

[hilux]

Should I graze it for a week or just get in there and spray it? @deleted user 837354

 

[deleted user 837354]

No no, get on and spray them pronto. That is cracking for only 5 weeks. Wanted doing a sniff earlier but never mind. Hit them now, they will disappear down in no time. Then you can graze it, might have to go again or perhaps in spring as might miss some in a population that big.

 

[dazza b]

I think hurler might be only 0.75l on new leys so as Ollie says get something like polo slapped in with it

 

[Bury the Trash]

Should I graze it for a week or just get in there and spray it? @deleted user 837354

Dont graze yet, Spray it asap. And be better up the volume ..... 200lha at least not 100lha anyway . Being that big and thick.

 

[hilux]

Is doxstar straight fluroxypyr?

 

[Bury the Trash]

No.

 

[milkloss]

Is doxstar straight fluroxypyr?

No, it has triclopyr in the mix but straight fluroxypyr will be a darn sight cheaper and probably just as effective at that growth stage.

 

[deleted user 837354]

I think hurler might be only 0.75l on new leys so as Ollie says get something like polo slapped in with it

Given the population above one might be inclined to go at 1L/a but as you say that would never be legal on a new ley and neither would 2L/ha of pastor.