Dog wormers

[Al R]

Sheep farm, 4 working dogs. What’s the best/most cost effective way of worming the dogs and how regurlar should they be done?

6-10 farm cats you can’t get anyway near, is there anyway of worming these - they do get food every night but they all eat from the same bowls so quantity would be sporadic?

 

[JSmith]

Sheep farm, 4 working dogs. What’s the best/most cost effective way of worming the dogs and how regurlar should they be done?

6-10 farm cats you can’t get anyway near, is there anyway of worming these - they do get food every night but they all eat from the same bowls so quantity would be sporadic?

Drontal ours but pretty sure you can give panacur. IMO cats an sheep don’t mix, can bring abortion issue, also had trouble in the lambing shed with them opening up bags of milk powder and chewing teets off bottle etc. Think our dogs self wormed with cat fur

 

[milkloss]

Use drontal on the dogs but one was always sick an hour or wo after so we now use the other common drug but can’t remember the name now.

cats are easy to sort but I suspect you won’t like the method!

 

[JSmith]

We’re on the same wave length ?

 

[matty]

Drontal our dogs every 3/4 months.
We have about 8 wild farm cats they normally have dry food put out ,but when I worm I mix panacur granules mashed in with a big tin of dog meat and do that for a couple of days and hope they all get a bit.

 

[neilo]

Drontal (or cheaper generic version) for the dogs every couple of months.

As for the cats, we used to have around 20, mostly feral, cats at home. Most of them you couldn't get near, but came to a mass feeding every evening. Pour-on ivermectin is very effective against fleas, lice and roundworms, but you have to be careful not to overdose or they suffer from nervous fits. 0.1ml per cat is plenty, squirted on their neck as they feed. Ideally you'd like to get it on the skin, but that's not always possible with those types. Not perfect by any means, but better than leaving them to suffer with roundworms and/or fleas through not treating them, imo. Probably best not to write it in your FA book though.....
Panacur is about all you can do for roundworms, if you can't catch them to give them a huge praziquantel tablet.

Incidentally, if you use a sheep/cattle white drench, make sure it doesn't have an extras like Se & Co in it. They can make cats & dogs very sick apparently (I've not tried it).

 

[neilo]

IMO cats an sheep don’t mix, can bring abortion issue,

Only juvenile cats can spread toxo, older ones aren't a problem at all. General advice is to have a few neutered/spayed cats about, as they will keep wandering cats away, keep vermin down and not cause any toxo issues.

 

[JSmith]

Only juvenile cats can spread toxo, older ones aren't a problem at all. General advice is to have a few neutered/spayed cats about, as they will keep wandering cats away, keep vermin down and not cause any toxo issues.

I stand corrected?

 

[Lili]

Vet recommends Cazitel - I think it's cheaper than Drontal but does the same worms.

 

[Dry Rot]

Just be aware that adult animals can develop an immunity to worms unless for some reason they are heavily exposed to repeated reinfection. The vets won't tell you this but I can't think why! Worms and canids have both been around for a very long time and neither has become extinct yet.

 

[Pistonbroke]

Biheldon tablets on eBay are Bulgarian drontal plus copies. Sixteen quid gets 90 of them, same ingredients

 

[Al R]

Only juvenile cats can spread toxo, older ones aren't a problem at all. General advice is to have a few neutered/spayed cats about, as they will keep wandering cats away, keep vermin down and not cause any toxo issues.

I’ve never seen a live rat on this yard and we have 150 bales of straw here most of the time and quite a few old unused stone sheds that would be ideal for rats but that’s where the cats live. Can’t get within 30-40 yards of some of them and they only come to the feeding zone when I’m back in the house the other side of the yard.
Not sure on toxo status to be honest but it’s surely lurking there somewhere, I pay a pest control firm Solely for FA reasons and they havnt seen a rat in the 3 years they’ve been with us, apparently using cats doesn’t cover FA as pest control?

 

[neilo]

I’ve never seen a live rat on this yard and we have 150 bales of straw here most of the time and quite a few old unused stone sheds that would be ideal for rats but that’s where the cats live. Can’t get within 30-40 yards of some of them and they only come to the feeding zone when I’m back in the house the other side of the yard.
Not sure on toxo status to be honest but it’s surely lurking there somewhere, I pay a pest control firm Solely for FA reasons and they havnt seen a rat in the 3 years they’ve been with us, apparently using cats doesn’t cover FA as pest control?

I've always Told FA that we don’t have rat problems due to the cats about the place, hence no poison used, and resulting paperwork. They’ve always been happy enough with that.
I’m not FA with the cereals though, or i’d Have to exclude the cats from their duties in the corn store.

A lot of our cats at home were like that, so I had to get creative and hide behind an adjacent door pillar and ‘shoot’ at them with a 1ml syringe with 0.1ml loaded in it. Usually got most of them, one way or another. Not ideal by any means, but better than leaving them to suffer imo.

 

[Downton_shep]

Dogs should be wormed every 3 months with Drontal (or equivalent) and every month between with Droncit (my vet gives these free when I buy Drontal) to kill the tapeworm that causes the cysts in sheep.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Dogs should be wormed every 3 months with Drontal (or equivalent) and every month between with Droncit (my vet gives these free when I buy Drontal) to kill the tapeworm that causes the cysts in sheep.

Are you feeding a lot of raw sheep meat to your dogs? Otherwise seems an excessive amount of worming? Not the 3 monthly but the extra in between.
Or are you in an area where C Ovis is a particular problem.

 

[Downton_shep]

Are you feeding a lot of raw sheep meat to your dogs? Otherwise seems an excessive amount of worming? Not the 3 monthly but the extra in between.
Or are you in an area where C Ovis is a particular problem.

It’s whats recommended by the vet. Droncit only kills tapeworm.
I don’t feed much sheep meat, mainly chicken.
I did some PM’s last week and there was signs on the livers.

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

Pour-on ivermectin is very effective against fleas, lice and roundworms,

Don't even think about using Ivermectin on a collie or collie-cross

(or any dog with white feet if you listen to the old vets)

 

[neilo]

Don't even think about using Ivermectin on a collie or collie-cross

(or any dog with white feet if you listen to the old vets)

I wouldn't use it on any dog, my answer was for the farm cats that are so wild that they would otherwise die from their worm burden.

 

[unlacedgecko]

It’s whats recommended by the vet. Droncit only kills tapeworm.
I don’t feed much sheep meat, mainly chicken.
I did some PM’s last week and there was signs on the livers.

Killing your dog to check worm burden seems a bit harsh.