Ear tagging dead lambs under 6 or 9 months

[originallonghorn]

So it states in the DEFRA guidance;

• You must ear tag sheep and goats;

• Within 6 months of birth, if they’re housed overnight.
• Within 9 months of birth, if they’re not housed overnight.
• Before you move them off their holding of birth if this is sooner (alive).

Does that mean that if you have a lamb that dies prior to tagging and under 6 or 9 months of age you don't need to tag it before dropping it off at the kennel/knackerman? I even rang ETAS about this who assured me this was the case, just wanted to check this is what everybody else was doing..?

 

[milkloss]

They always die under the age of 6 or 9 months anyway don’t they?

 

[neilo]

Why on earth would anyone tag a dead sheep?

It’s ridiculous enough that we have to put a tag in @ lamb the day before slaughter, which is then the first thing that is lopped off and thrown in the bin.

 

[Al R]

No need to tag a lamb untagged going to knackermen, 1 of the drivers with my lot refuses to put ewes tag numbers down whether 1 or 10 and puts N/A, looks bad at our inspection but I have it all recorded my end what ewe died when so satisfied farm assurance

 

[neilo]

No need to tag a lamb untagged going to knackermen, 1 of the drivers with my lot refuses to put ewes tag numbers down and puts N/A, looks bad at our inspection but I have it all recorded my end what ewe died when so satisfied farm assurance

Our drivers all do the same, which is fine by me. I have individual records that satisfy all the inspectors that have called by and I’d hate the knackerman’s records to contradict them (joking, before anyone gets excited).

 

[dogandstick]

Only need tagging if still alive when reaching the appropriate age or moving off the holding, whichever occurs first. A movement only applies to a live animal. Once dead, transporting to the knackers is considered a movement. If tagged before dying, its tag number must be recorded when it dies.

 

[DieselRob]

I've always cut the tag out of their ear before dropping at the hunt or going on the knacker wagon, never known any different

 

[Agrivator]

Someone in NFU Scotland suggested that each Knacker's van should have an electronic-tag reader positioned so that a dead animal's tag could be read as it was dragged up the ramp. Honestly. And I pay about £650 sub to them each year.

Who's the idiot?

 

[Al R]

Someone in NFU Scotland suggested that each Knacker's van should have an electronic-tag reader positioned so that a dead animal's tag could be read as it was dragged up the ramp. Honestly. And I pay about £650 sub to them each year.

Who's the idiot?

A lamb would just be a lamb, same as BOL’s...

I had to get the tag reader to read a tag a few months ago as couldn’t read either tags the numbers had completely gone and she was 4 year old

 

[Fendt516profi]

A lamb would just be a lamb, same as BOL’s...

I had to get the tag reader to read a tag a few months ago as couldn’t read either tags the numbers had completely gone and she was 4 year old

4years they've lasted well. I got some tags last year and there bad to read now, won't be getting anymore

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

The Badgers eat all of our ear tags as the ears are one of the first things to go!!!
All the Raptors seem to eat the rest of the sheep very quickly at the moment so there is never much to pick up.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

4years they've lasted well. I got some tags last year and there bad to read now, won't be getting anymore

Who didn't use Shearwell then!

 

[Tarw Coch]

No need to tag a lamb untagged going to knackermen, 1 of the drivers with my lot refuses to put ewes tag numbers down whether 1 or 10 and puts N/A, looks bad at our inspection but I have it all recorded my end what ewe died when so satisfied farm assurance

On a similar note, knackerman allways cuts a cattle tag out here so he can sit in the seat and fill the paperwork out with the tag number in front of him, I hope no one at the other end is checking cattle are double tagged nowadays, I know they were checking tags at one point some years ago, probably back in the wake of bse when we were getting paid for them.

 

[Fendt516profi]

Who didn't use Shearwell then!

Not using shearwell now either

 

[neilo]

Who didn't use Shearwell then!

You can read my Shearwell tags alright, usually in two pieces as I replace them. I was replacing some replacements a couple of days ago.?

 

[gatepost]

Just out of interest, who's tags are lasting/visible, shearwell generally visible , but break low retention, roxanne get on well with tagger thingy, but totally illegible to old eyes. and no I don't tag a dead sheep

 

[Al R]

all shearwell here and fin some are better than others. 2016 being one of the bad ones for snapping in half and the number gone completely

 

[Fendt516profi]

You can read my Shearwell tags alright, usually in two pieces as I replace them. I was replacing some replacements a couple of days ago.?

Arrr but aren't the replacements free so that's ok

 

[Fendt516profi]

Just out of interest, who's tags are lasting/visible, shearwell generally visible , but break low retention, roxanne get on well with tagger thingy, but totally illegible to old eyes. and no I don't tag a dead sheep

Using allflex qwik eid. Was using tagfaster but the tagger was very numb to get to the ear of the horned lambs(particularly the left ear) Not sure if the maker but bought some sheep off a neighbour at back end of last year that he'd just tagged band noticed now when there in pens all the tags are spinning round in the ear making the hole bigger doesn't look like it'll be long till there's a mass replacement needed.

 

[steveR]

The Badgers eat all of our ear tags as the ears are one of the first things to go!!!
All the Raptors seem to eat the rest of the sheep very quickly at the moment so there is never much to pick up.

Must be tags scattered all across Sussex buried in Badger scat!!!