Effin mart
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TripleSix
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- Helmsley, North Yorkshire
Might give them a try.
Sold quite a lot at Thirsk and get on well there, but as I try and do a mart run when I'm passing the days don't always fit.
Pieces_of_Eight
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Someone had some cheap lawnmowers/dogfood
Live auctions worked when every town had one. I appreciate that modern disease prevention/control views live auctions as an anachronism, but the alternative is to get shafted by selling deadweight, which is no more transparent.
TripleSix
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- Helmsley, North Yorkshire
Livestock farming is the only industry which does not know how much they will receive for their produce until it is actually sold!
No other business runs like that?
No other business runs like that?
I know that's a common fable on this forum, but it's not even remotely true. Most businesses won't know exactly what they'll be able to charge for their goods or services until they have agreed a deal with a willing buyer.
I'm currently throwing half a dozen houses up on a brownfield site I bought a few years back. I would like to get around £300k for them, which would leave me a modest but still acceptable profit. Past experience however tells me that I might only get £200k for them, such are the vagaries of the market these days, in which case I'll break even or thereabouts. That's capitalism for you, and what separates us from those happy to live off whatever is at the end of their payslip.
I could find a house builders forum and moan about "effin estate agents" and hope that some other small-scale housebuilding market participants will agree with me, but to be honest I would probably be better off expending my efforts learning to be a better house builder.
Willie adie
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- Aberdeenshire
Thats fine until the auctioneers or buyers decide on the ring they want this or that together to suit them.
CharcoalWally
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- West of Scotland
Like plenty of other posters have said, don't go there. If it's a rotten mart run by rotten auctioneers, why would you use it?
The trouble with dealers is that they know to the penny what everything is worth, when most farmers don't, because we're not in the market every week. Which is why so many farmers get done over by dealers. It's naked, laissez-faire , me me me, cut-throat capitalism at its most agressive. Where the greatest margin that can be achieved by underpayment of the primary producer is the goal.
But, we all have a free choice.
Woolless
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- Berwickshire, Scottish Borders
Yes, I know what you mean. I had an acquaintance who fancied having a go at dealing but said that to really make money you would have to 'rob' folk and he wasn't comfortable doing that. He's an auctioneer now, so make of that what you will!
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- sw scotland
Our local market will sort ewes and fat lambs into lots by condition and weight without asking them
Rowland
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- Northeast England
Sounds like the OP has been a unfortunate victim of a good touch by the mart and the buyers .
The mart has to keep the buyers sweet as we all know they will get appearance money.
It’s a tough one to take £1 a head the drovers should have put the two weathers together the thin one and the rest together.
Fair enough if you don’t want to spend a few hrs at the mart , I’m with you on that, but if you had stayed and got £30-£50 a head that’s £240 to £400 you could have made which isn’t bad for a few hrs of boredom.
I sell to a man with big red wagons from Wolsingham he tells me what I’ll get collects them end of , if I’m not happy then they don’t go .
The mart has to keep the buyers sweet as we all know they will get appearance money.
It’s a tough one to take £1 a head the drovers should have put the two weathers together the thin one and the rest together.
Fair enough if you don’t want to spend a few hrs at the mart , I’m with you on that, but if you had stayed and got £30-£50 a head that’s £240 to £400 you could have made which isn’t bad for a few hrs of boredom.
I sell to a man with big red wagons from Wolsingham he tells me what I’ll get collects them end of , if I’m not happy then they don’t go .
Willie adie
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- Aberdeenshire
Sounds like he is more than comfortable then
exactly,you wouldn't sit in the workshop for 12hrs while the spanner man services the combine
Chasingmytail
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- Newport, SE Wales
Ive taken some right sh@te to market and never got less than £20. The way it works in mart is 1. the breed and 2. face that fits (politics BS). Back in spring took some good easycare to mart - same weights as Welsh but got less than the average. After that decided to forget supporting the local mart and take direct to abattoir.
As for standing around to us its never worth it got another business to run and even standing around walked away with below price - I see market as a clique. The same old sheep buyers smoking away I cant be bothered next time put a reserve on and collect them back. At £1 each time they take commission and all the fees/levies thats an utter joke.
As for standing around to us its never worth it got another business to run and even standing around walked away with below price - I see market as a clique. The same old sheep buyers smoking away I cant be bothered next time put a reserve on and collect them back. At £1 each time they take commission and all the fees/levies thats an utter joke.
Chasingmytail
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- Location
- Newport, SE Wales
Also any whethers/ewes/tiny lambs the ethic community love these and if you know someone like we do will kill and cut on site and take the carcass away and pay you a nice fee. This is a win win. A tiny lamb not worth taking to mart but happy to pay you £20 without you having to drive them for the joy of it.
TripleSix
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- Location
- Helmsley, North Yorkshire
I'm not deluded enough to think they'd make that much.
I was expecting us to be in the £14-32pph price range with these particular sheep.
Based on past experience.
I should've just opted for a poke in the eye instead.
Nearly
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- Location
- North of York
Just let me know when you need one.
- Location
- The North
i do this often with a local dealer, and a local famer who buys them to fatten,
they usually bid a fair price, if not i can refuse but im usually fair as are they,
it works well both ways and saves wasting half day for 3 culls just text the telling then they are in pen and they text back a time to have a look,
its the future!!
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- The North
i often think that, and when our costs go up tough sh!t... crap really
Coximus
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Happened to me once with some swales.... Small trailer so split my group 12 to one mart one day and same later in the week to other.... One mart 18 a head the other 45.... Leanrt one is strong on twxel and anything else goes cheap to a dealer.... Who sells later in the weak down the road...
Likewise I brought some culls at said mart for further fattening when I had excess grass....
Likewise I brought some culls at said mart for further fattening when I had excess grass....
TripleSix
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- Location
- Helmsley, North Yorkshire
Just let me know when you need one.
You'd probably charge me for it.
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