Embarassing crop of spring barley? FW p 46

[Will7]

I saw his spring barley crop,,when I say flat,I mean I've seen more up and go in road kill on the M25.
In these kneck of the woods we all love talking about AW yields .

In this little part of Lincs it is always suggested you ask the Dali Farmer for his yields before you reveal yours!!

 

[Heathland]

In this little part of Lincs it is always suggested you ask the Dali Farmer for his yields before you reveal yours!!

Or just listen to Lincs FM and he tells the whole county.

 

[Will7]

Or just listen to Lincs FM and he tells the whole county.

Too early for me!!

 

[shakerator]

Literally across the road I now feel very inferior @6.5t/ ha

 

[Iben]

Literally across the road I now feel very inferior @6.5t/ ha

Don't forget to add in the weight of the straw!


Edit. Why has your yield changed in my quote???

 

[Chae1]

We grow spring barley on crap sandy soil. Average 2.2t/acre but restricted with n as it's for low n malting.

 

[shakerator]

Don't forget to add in the weight of the straw!


Edit. Why has your yield changed in my quote???

Just over 2.5t/ac I didn't want to exaggerate !

 

[SilliamWhale]

Literally across the road I now feel very inferior @6.5t/ ha

This means your neighbour with an average of 9.5t/ha is beating you by 3t/ha year in year out! How is he able to get such higher yields? Also if his average is 9.5t/ha then his yields in previous years must have been even higher than 9.5t/ha because last years 8.1t/ha will have dragged the average down - he may have been regularly getting 10t/ha plus of spring barley - that is quite something to do year in year out.

 

[Flat 10]

This means your neighbour with an average of 9.5t/ha is beating you by 3t/ha year in year out! How is he able to get such higher yields?

I'll say it, liberal application of BS

 

[Heathland]

Doesn't say anything about his switch to liquid fert last year in the article ,so I wonder if that was his downfall last harvest?
Quite literally.

 

[Fuzzy]

Literally across the road I now feel very inferior @6.5t/ ha

It is amazing how a road, ditch or hedge can have such a big difference on yield, i have a hedge between me and an extra half tonne an acre in wheat

 

[shakerator]

This means your neighbour with an average of 9.5t/ha is beating you by 3t/ha year in year out! How is he able to get such higher yields? Also if his average is 9.5t/ha then his yields in previous years must have been even higher than 9.5t/ha because last years 8.1t/ha will have dragged the average down - he may have been regularly getting 10t/ha plus of spring barley - that is quite something to do year in year out.

Actually I do think he does a good job. Attention to detail far better than mine, my achilles really

 

[Frodo2]

I'm scratching my head on those average yields. I am on light land and I can BEAT those averages for all crops EVERY year, and that is on my averages, not on a single field. There must be some folk out there not even trying, or do the national.figures include organics?

I think if you went up to morayshire you might find out what light land is. The climate in aberdeenshire also makes perthshire seem a benign place to farm. The big potato & veg guys have better things to do than worry about £20/acre of barley. One field not harvested reduces an average by more than a bumper crop. All in I guess the average is pretty realistic.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Actually I do think he does a good job. Attention to detail far better than mine, my achilles really

I think its a tremendous job to average 9.5t/ha of spring barley every year. Must mean some of the crop is 10-11t/ha plus to account for the inevitable little bits that aren't so good. Hats off to him because there's not many british fields growing that much and certainly fewer still who feel its not enough yield

 

[Mr Charisma]

I had one field of spring barley last year which yielded above 4 ton / acre ,,,,,,, easy peasy , this spring barley growing is easier than I remembered ,,,,,,,, then moved into field next door ,,,,, 2,2 ton / acre ,,,

Did you hear it ???????

BUMP

There you go that was me coming back to reality

But the reason between the huge difference in yield was quite simple

Ps. I'm not going to even talk about my first foray into direct drilling a spring barley crop which ended up being a total disaster

 

[bankrupt]

a spring barley crop which ended up being a total disaster

At 2.2t/acre, you still managed to hit the national average.

So what are you complaining about?

Higher yields, Mr Charisma, will only bring down prices even more, as any fule kno.

 

[Mr Charisma]

At 2.2t/acre, you still managed to hit the national average.

So what are you complaining about?

Higher yields, Mr Charisma, will only bring down prices even more, as any fule kno.

I'm not complaining , just stating that any fool can get it right but he can also get it wrong ,,,,,,, the jist I was getting was that the folks who claimed they are doing over 4 ton were being ridiculed as if it was an impossible goal ,,,,,,, maybe for some it is , maybe others have got there head around a high yielding crop of feed spring barley , hell I managed to get it oh so right and oh so wrong with in 10 yards and there wasn't even a bloody hedge involved

As for high yields bringing price down ,,,, well 2.2 tons of feed spring barley doesn't cut it for me ,,,,,, okay that is where it may end up but when ever I open a bag to fill the drill I'm always hoping it will yield near the 3 ton mark

 

[Clive]

anyone growing spring barley this year has already fallen at the first hurdle IMO

AHDB data shows planting expected to be up 20 ish % - barley is going to be worthless next harvest, you will need 4t to make a margin !

 

[Happy]

Can't really imagine what a 4t/acre crop of SB in the field would look like.
Last 3 years of SB have averaged 3t, 2.8t and 2.9t acre. That's malting given 100-110 units N so I suppose upping the N a lot and some growth regulator would make it possible.
Best yield ever for me is still Prisma at 3.2t/acre back in 1995 though.

Alway work contracts out on 2.5t acre and hope for 3t.

 

[Happy]

anyone growing spring barley this year has already fallen at the first hurdle IMO

AHDB data shows planting expected to be up 20 ish % - barley is going to be worthless next harvest, you will need 4t to make a margin !

I blame the direct drillers and blackgrass dodgers down south that have recently discovered Spring cropping.
Fudged it up for those in traditional SB parts of the country