enforcing lockdown ?

[daven]

Germany (Bavaria for sure... other states are close)
curfew 2100-0500 to and from work only... think you can walk your dog...

restaurants... churches... stores (except food and drugstores)

no gatherings of more than 10 people and only from 2 households...

mask anywhere that 1.5 meters distance... example... no mask in a bus stop... fine...

people are encouraged to report violations to police...

recently... grandfather taking grandkids home.... few minutes after 2100 and a 500 euro fine...
3 hikers got lost and were out past 2100... 500 euro each..(I imagine there's a little more to that one tho)

no alcohol in public

no fireworks on new year's eve...

BUT.....you can work.... and if you have a business or farm... you can shop for building related materials and agriculture related materials... (gotta produce them taxes)

are you folks that bad?

 

[Daniel]

Not yet!

What possible justification can there be for fining Grandad? Does covid only start spreading at 2100?

 

[davieh3350]

American Billionaires That Got Richer During COVID – 24/7 Wall St.

The COVID-19 pandemic has triggered an economic crisis of a magnitude not seen since the Great Depression. In the early months of the pandemic, as local businesses across the country closed, tens of millions of Americans lost their job. Now, more than half a year later, more than 11 million...

247wallst.com

Lockdown suits these guys...

 

[Virkardd]

The Great reset is happening and it is being forced upon us quicker than any of us ever predicted.

Really find it hard to believe just how a virus with a 99% survival has allowed the world powers to control it's population the way it has. Pretty much taking over our lives and taking away our freedom.

The only people to prosper from this are the super rich who will inevitably get richer whilst the working class pretty much loose everything and will rely on government handouts to survive hence be able to be controlled far easier.

2021 will be even worse, the vaccine will be forced upon us all, if we ever want to return to any normality. And our lives will be monitored more closey than ever before.

All this for a virus that isn't even that deadly just doesn't make sense there is a far more sinister reason behind it all, and i think a lot of people are starting to wake up and realize that.

 

[Charlie Gill]

American Billionaires That Got Richer During COVID – 24/7 Wall St.

The COVID-19 pandemic has triggered an economic crisis of a magnitude not seen since the Great Depression. In the early months of the pandemic, as local businesses across the country closed, tens of millions of Americans lost their job. Now, more than half a year later, more than 11 million...

247wallst.com

Lockdown suits these guys...

It's amazing that Bezos can earn money for himself almost at the same rate as our country pays out on furlough. Mind blowing.

 

[davieh3350]

It's amazing that Bezos can earn money for himself almost at the same rate as our country pays out on furlough. Mind blowing.

Maybe it’s time to give the high streets shops the subsidies and not farmers!

How Amazon became a pandemic giant – and why that could be a threat to us all

Online retail grew massively in lockdown, and Amazon reaped huge profits. But where is the company’s relentless innovation and automation heading – and is it time to clip its wings?

www.theguardian.com

 

[Pasty]

The Great reset is happening and it is being forced upon us quicker than any of us ever predicted.

Really find it hard to believe just how a virus with a 99% survival has allowed the world powers to control it's population the way it has. Pretty much taking over our lives and taking away our freedom.

The only people to prosper from this are the super rich who will inevitably get richer whilst the working class pretty much loose everything and will rely on government handouts to survive hence be able to be controlled far easier.

2021 will be even worse, the vaccine will be forced upon us all, if we ever want to return to any normality. And our lives will be monitored more closey than ever before.

All this for a virus that isn't even that deadly just doesn't make sense there is a far more sinister reason behind it all, and i think a lot of people are starting to wake up and realize that.

Problem is you just get shut down, mocked and called a 'conspiracy theorist' for even suggesting such a thing.

 

[Virkardd]

Problem is you just get shut down, mocked and called a 'conspiracy theorist' for even suggesting such a thing.

Don't worry I've got use to it been saying since this all started what the outcome was going to be and the implication on our day to day life, but most people just laughed.

But I do think there has been a change in the last few weeks and a fair amount of people are starting to question it all and seeing that there is a hidden agenda behind it all.
Problem is I think it's all come to late and the damage has been done.

 

[Charlie Gill]

The Great reset is happening and it is being forced upon us quicker than any of us ever predicted.

Really find it hard to believe just how a virus with a 99% survival has allowed the world powers to control it's population the way it has. Pretty much taking over our lives and taking away our freedom.

The only people to prosper from this are the super rich who will inevitably get richer whilst the working class pretty much loose everything and will rely on government handouts to survive hence be able to be controlled far easier.

2021 will be even worse, the vaccine will be forced upon us all, if we ever want to return to any normality. And our lives will be monitored more closey than ever before.

All this for a virus that isn't even that deadly just doesn't make sense there is a far more sinister reason behind it all, and i think a lot of people are starting to wake up and realize that.

Do you think the working class will be easier to control if they are poorer?

 

[7610 super q]

 

[daven]

Do you think the working class will be easier to control if they are poorer?

is a pig's ass pork ? break them... make them dependent on government handouts...
read the little story about stalin and the chicken....
I hope I'm wrong... but it could be just a matter of time before it's suggested that guns be taken away.... couldn't happen in America... but it could be pretty easy on this side of the pond.... this has been a perfect tool for the whole world....

 

[essex man]

People under thirty are being shafted by covid...
Generally less likely to be enriched by covid cash
Less likely cause even less reason to fear virus
Lifestyles generally most affected by restrictions.

Covid cash includes...furloughs, working from home which saves commute etc, money given to self employed, increases in house prices due to money printing.

I see it as more of a here's some money to make you happy we're fighting this war.
Here's a uniform(mask)
After we declare victory, remember to vote for us.

Btw you're probably going to be a lot worse off in five years, but don't worry, we can always have another covid.

Politicians are too stupid to conspire to do this imo, it's just the way things work, they are almost forced to.
Printing money is popular and binding people together by fighting a war is a trick as old as time. It's democracy on action!

 

[Charlie Gill]

is a pig's ass pork ? break them... make them dependent on government handouts...
read the little story about stalin and the chicken....
I hope I'm wrong... but it could be just a matter of time before it's suggested that guns be taken away.... couldn't happen in America... but it could be pretty easy on this side of the pond.... this has been a perfect tool for the whole world....

Bot?

 

[daven]

Bot?

sorry... don't understand this..

 

[Charlie Gill]

sorry... don't understand this..

I wondered if you were being paid to spread misinformation. We don't carry guns over here and I can't see you taking them off farmers?

 

[daven]

I wondered if you were being paid to spread misinformation. We don't carry guns over here and I can't see you taking them off farmers?

wrong forum I guess... hunters and sport shooters can have guns here in Germany... and UK has similar rules I think...
I have guns because I hunt.... but the state knows exactly what I have and where they are located....
no... I don't sell out to anyone....

 

[The Seeker]

I agree HOW the heck has it come to night curfews? not going out for a 99% survival rate virus?? im sorry to say this is the world gone mad. im actually finding it all little overwhelming internally what we are creating to stop the virus? i have no idea about how the NHS deals with the patents individually but its clear that whatever they are doing isn't enough for the numbers the need to be flexible and look at different ways of running the system-- "i hear you say what do you suggest "? that's not my problem but when i have a major issue on the farm say 2 month of snow at lambing time we adapt FAST. I had to laugh tonight when i turned the telly on i said to t the wife what the news would be before it came on and then the bloody beeb has the audacity to cut several employees of the nhs's sentences together like a live aid song to say the most god fearful sentences then could make..I honestly wouldn't wipe my wheel arch with the british press nowadays.

 

[Virkardd]

Do you think the working class will be easier to control if they are poorer?

Most definitely will be as the governments will be able to play the public to there advantage.

Take the vaccine to keep your support payments.

Keep voting for us moving forward or else your future dependants on us to survive may be at risk.

A bit like with the current furlow payments it is just enough for most families who are having to rely on them to live off. but not have any money to save up. They want us to have total dependants on them for us to live off. There fore being able to control our every move to dictate the outcome they want.

The figures are there for everyone to see that covid 19 was responsible for 368 deaths this year in the under 60s with no underlying health problems. So why destroy the world economy and the working masses for s virus that effects that group very little.

Meaning the remaining deaths if they were even down to covid,as the wording states that they died having tested positive of covid in the last 28 days.

You don't die with something you die of something big difference there,so if someone died of a heart attack but they tested positive for covid 24 days ago covid goes down on the death certificate. So the figures can never be taken seriously.

Also around 1700 people a day die in the UK 78000 last year due to smoking related illnesses where is the Ban on smoking

Fact is there is a lot the governments are not telling us and we will never know off. But the longer this drags on for the more people can see what is truly going on.

 

[Raider112]

Don't worry I've got use to it been saying since this all started what the outcome was going to be and the implication on our day to day life, but most people just laughed.

But I do think there has been a change in the last few weeks and a fair amount of people are starting to question it all and seeing that there is a hidden agenda behind it all.
Problem is I think it's all come to late and the damage has been done.

I think there has been a change in the last few days but not the way you say. Over 50,000 cases today and about to get a lot worse, if the penny isn't dropping that this is serious by now it never will.

 

[davieh3350]

I think there has been a change in the last few days but not the way you say. Over 50,000 cases today and about to get a lot worse, if the penny isn't dropping that this is serious by now it never will.

50 thousand cases, how many have no symptoms/aren’t suffering/the test was wrong?
Most don’t care. If they stop payments they’ll soon change their views.