Farm Plastic

[Wastexprt]

So, looking at your discussion, there is the technology to turn our waste tyres and plastic into fuel, but licensing the technology is incredibly expensive, even though it seems the government wants it to happen, am I right?
Have you spoken to someone like mole valley farmers about it, they have the size to run with something like this

In a nutshell, that's it. Permitting is not so bad, it's the CEMS (Continuous Emissions Monitoring System) is very expensive. I am just awaiting my second pyrolysis permit to be decided for a client. Once we know that outcome they are looking for another 12 - 14 sites across the country. I have two other clients also looking for sites, but it's a bit of a slow burner with the political situation at the moment.

 

[Steevo]

So, looking at your discussion, there is the technology to turn our waste tyres and plastic into fuel, but licensing the technology is incredibly expensive, even though it seems the government wants it to happen, am I right?
Have you spoken to someone like mole valley farmers about it, they have the size to run with something like this

Enables the government to still blame it on industry/consumers....and not accept the reality that it's their responsibility to help sort the situation rather than placing the responsibility on to business either way (i.e. tax pollution, or pay (tax!) to prove the alternatives are viable/safe).

 

[Wastexprt]

Enables the government to still blame it on industry/consumers....and not accept the reality that it's their responsibility to help sort the situation rather than placing the responsibility on to business either way (i.e. tax pollution, or pay (tax!) to prove the alternatives are viable/safe).

The polluter pays principle, is the basic tenet of environmental regulation in that the entity creating the problem pays for it's remedy, rather than the burden falling of the general taxpayer, hence last years huge EA increases.

The big problem that these waste facilities are not more widespread? Public perception and the Govt only just realising that recycling our waste at home is a good thing and not relying on exporting our cr@p abroad for others to deal with.

There is a case for a support mechanism of some form for Alternative Conversion Technologies (ACTs), but it needs to be carefully considered as I'm not sure that the AD support mechanism was good value for money for the taxpayer.

 

[Steevo]

The polluter pays principle, is the basic tenet of environmental regulation in that the entity creating the problem pays for it's remedy, rather than the burden falling of the general taxpayer, hence last years huge EA increases.

The big problem that these waste facilities are not more widespread? Public perception and the Govt only just realising that recycling our waste at home is a good thing and not relying on exporting our cr@p abroad for others to deal with.

There is a case for a support mechanism of some form for Alternative Conversion Technologies (ACTs), but it needs to be carefully considered as I'm not sure that the AD support mechanism was good value for money for the taxpayer.

I get this.....and can see the sense. The issue arises where the government/agencies place insanely high requirements for permits/monitoring etc. on individual cases, thus stifling demand and prohibiting the technology evolving to a less polluting form. If a car MOT was £10k a year, I doubt we'd have many cars on the road. If an electric car MOT was triple that due to the monitoring required (despite clearly being lower emissions!) the market would be almost dead overnight.

 

[Half Pipe]

I also get the polluter pays principle, but it's surely in the country's interest to encourage sensible ways of dealing with all forms of waste!
Modern lifestyles create large amounts of waste

 

[Wastexprt]

I also get the polluter pays principle, but it's surely in the country's interest to encourage sensible ways of dealing with all forms of waste!
Modern lifestyles create large amounts of waste

Indeed they do and in order to ensure that the wastes are recovered properly without causing harm to the environment or human health they should operate to acceptable standards. I am shortly to request a derogation for one, costly, parameter to be removed from the monitoring because after 5 years of operation it has never registered on the clients monitoring equipment.