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Would have to find someone to buy her first !Sounds like you would sell yer granny
Would have to find someone to buy her first !Sounds like you would sell yer granny
No, scrap them. Our customers know we're getting them and factor it into price we get.
This thing about measuring soil health annoys me. No doubt we will be forced down the no till route, whether we like it or not. Even though I plough, I have a mixed farm rotation with lots of FYM added, and have been growing catch crops for sheep and cattle since the year dot. But an arable farm that has been on a wheat, OSR cropping, now riddled with black grass, will be lauded for no tilling. Which farm offers the better all round environmental benefit.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...-bill-evidence-slide-pack-direct-payments.pdf
DEFRA articles showing the glorious benefits of removing subsidies (aka taking money from the farmers)
Don’t get me wrong i’m sure they will put measures in place to protect markets. Environmental schemes will be flooded with incentives.
But its when the reports (written by experts apparently) say things like better business planning will make up for subsidy loss, less use of antibiotics, diversifying more....
Most farmers are already doing all they can.... but the response from policy seems to be work harder... madness
2 questions relating to some of the posts above:
Firstly, with subsidies gone, how will the powers that be enforce cross compliance? Fining farmers will be massively more expensive than the “deduct money, prove yourself innocent later” system we currently have.
Secondly, how will min-till/zero-till do once glyphosate is banned, assuming that it will be?
2 questions relating to some of the posts above:
Firstly, with subsidies gone, how will the powers that be enforce cross compliance? Fining farmers will be massively more expensive than the “deduct money, prove yourself innocent later” system we currently have.
Secondly, how will min-till/zero-till do once glyphosate is banned, assuming that it will be?
Most farmers are already doing all they can...but the response from policy seems to be work harder
Do you honestly believe that?
The subsidy debate obviously varies upon sector. It can make up the vast majority of a farmers incomes, particularly hill farms working with moorland where they are limited to what they can do.
Reports, like the one I presented before, present farmers as armchair farmers for claiming subsidies.
Of course farm management improvements can always be made, but can they be to the extent to cover the cost of loss subsidies?
I have always maintained the current system of 'fining' farmers is a dubious if not unjust way of implementing the law. If ,in industry, you flout the law you are innocent until proven guilty by a court and you have the right to employ a solicitor to defend your right . You may lose your case and it may cost you money but it is surprising how many win their cases. In agriculture it is in the gift of a RPA inspector to issue a guilty notice and then an 'office ' worker implement the fine . I wonder if all RPA non cross compliances went to court how many would be upheld or would even get there if we were allowed to defend ourselves like any other industry. I'm afraid we are sitting targets.2 questions relating to some of the posts above:
Firstly, with subsidies gone, how will the powers that be enforce cross compliance? Fining farmers will be massively more expensive than the “deduct money, prove yourself innocent later” system we currently have.
Secondly, how will min-till/zero-till do once glyphosate is banned, assuming that it will be?
Actually it the upstream suppliers that will suffer. The small market towns and communities that they are based in will suffer and before you know it in more, shall we say, peripheral areas will suffer a degree of depopulation.Farmers initially of course, it’s their income which is being cut.
But as farmers are notoriously bad at holding onto money, most grumble there isn’t enough in the job, their spending power will be cut so ultimately those further downstream will suffer, possibly more.
Did you stop claiming yours 20 years ago.Should have been scrapped 20 years ago
I think we would all be in a stronger position now rather that standing with a revolver to our heads with one bullet in . Who knows its history nowDid you stop claiming yours 29 years ago.
No one was forced to. Welsh farmers have had it particularly good, as you were still getting historic payments until recently .
I think you now say these things from a position of wealth , whereas many of the hill farms that are your customers for forage , wouldn’t be in business without subs , unfortunately .
For once I agree with youI think we would all be in a stronger position now rather that standing with a revolver to our heads with one bullet in . Who knows its history now