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Tubbylew

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Then try the U.S.A. where farmers/ranchers are well regarded. The link to the land remains strong in American culture and in many ways' defines who we are.
Yep I would say the US would have been a good fit, only spent about a week in minnesota, but it really surprised me how at home I felt, the effects of growing up in quite an americanised culture I guess.
 

chaffcutter

Moderator
Moderator
Location
S. Staffs
Having done several farming based trips to both USA and Canada both east and west, the farming was very appealing, but in general the isolation could present a big problem for the family.
It also seemed to me that the church in whatever denomination was the glue which provided a social life, there wasn’t much else. So it wouldn’t suit anyone not religiously inclined, as several of us on these trips agreed.
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
I came across this on facebook, I am a member of a group NZ farming, here in the UK I get the impression everyone thinks the NZ prime minister is wonderful, but the posts on the facebook group show a completely different picture, of a government who really has no understanding of agriculture and has it in for farming and the countryside (a bit like the UK really).
The present government seem intent on ruining NZ, she plays the media well but is starting to lose her shine, hopefully she doesn't get another term, problem being there is no credible opposition.,
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
It's the same problems the world over, I seriously considered emigrating to nz about 15 yrs ago, circumstances dictated that it wasn't possible, but I don't think I'd have been much better off tbh, particularly if involved with farming, may have been different in another industry, I'm not really sure if there are any countries in the world that value their farmers tbh, and it's likely always been the same.
We emigrated just over 20 years ago, looked at other countries but NZ was where we really wanted to be, never regretted the move once. We were back in the UK in January last year, took a couple of the kids back with us (they are in their 20s but still kids to us) On the way back home to NZ both of them thanked us for moving to NZ.
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Then try the U.S.A. where farmers/ranchers are well regarded. The link to the land remains strong in American culture and in many ways' defines who we are.

Was tempted 20 yrs or so ago, but Herself was not too keen on the wide open spaces as much as me...

So still in Shropshire, and the houses (and occupants), get ever closer... :(
 
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stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
Cannot answer for the Canadian system but here in the U.S. we have various types of crop insurance, choose the type you need for your operation and it will help you sleep.
People go to Canada for the promise of lower land prices but if that limits the type of crops' you can raise it would be better to aim for a more moderate climate further south.
Land tends to be cheap for a reason! anyone contemplating moving just because they think land is cheap is going to struggle with the move.
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
I moved to Canada twenty years ago and what was said above is very true. Some farming farming families moved here with the view Is was the promised land and the lure of cheap land and relative farming freedom couldn’t be passed up. I personally know many that moved from other countries and have done very well here but they all faced the same problems of the wives being away from friends and families,kids funding it hard to adjust to new schools without there friends and the general feeling that your all alone in the middle of no where. The men in general were fine as working in a new venture and the dream of making a go of things was what got them thru. The first couple of years was tough for me but I was lucky enough to meet other European farmers that had been here longer and just having that slight support network was comforting. For the most part it’s a great place to farm weather can be challenging and prices fluctuate but the one underlying factor of cheaper land and supply of it coming to market makes expansion possible.
At the moment farmer are still respected and considered vital to every community. It’s changed a lot in twenty years and I see it going the same way as Europe but for now it’s still a great place to farm and live.
A good friend of mine emigrated to Canada 30 years ago, loves the place and has done very well. Wives do tend to find it harder to adjust, took mine 10 years to settle and now would not contmemplate going back. Me? I was home the minute we got here.
Like Canada the place has changed in the 20 odd years we have been here, not for the better either.
 
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stewart

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Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
Having done several farming based trips to both USA and Canada both east and west, the farming was very appealing, but in general the isolation could present a big problem for the family.
It also seemed to me that the church in whatever denomination was the glue which provided a social life, there wasn’t much else. So it wouldn’t suit anyone not religiously inclined, as several of us on these trips agreed.
US never really appealed to me, I suppose the inherent religious extremism had something to do with it, being an atheist wouldn't help.
 

Tubbylew

Member
Location
Herefordshire
We emigrated just over 20 years ago, looked at other countries but NZ was where we really wanted to be, never regretted the move once. We were back in the UK in January last year, took a couple of the kids back with us (they are in their 20s but still kids to us) On the way back home to NZ both of them thanked us for moving to NZ.
My great grandfathers brother emigrated way back to te puke, and he thrived out there, wish the world was as big a place as it was then.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Would love to be movin to usa or canada to big grain farm but as the farm still belongs to me da iv nothin to sell to raise funds. But man it would be mighty to be farmin big open level fields instead of flower pot farmin here in ni

Have you been over there to work for a season to give it a try?
Why stay where you are if you don't like it?
 

daveydiesel1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
Have you been over there to work for a season to give it a try?
Why stay where you are if you don't like it?
No never did. Always wanted to do the harvest but me da woulda went mad if id o said i was goin for a few months. Too many ties at home now and id be goin out with no money so how would i set up shop in a large acres. Dont not like where am at but just always had that dream of a big arable farm and no cattle that leaves ye tied to the parlour 365 days
 

Flatlander

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
Just for the wide open space lovers. It’s as flat as you’ll find and part of a 1900 acre block. Not a single tree,electric pole or water trough to go around.
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Having done several farming based trips to both USA and Canada both east and west, the farming was very appealing, but in general the isolation could present a big problem for the family.
It also seemed to me that the church in whatever denomination was the glue which provided a social life, there wasn’t much else. So it wouldn’t suit anyone not religiously inclined, as several of us on these trips agreed.

Colorado is a pretty liberal free thinking state, religion optional.
I live in the San Luis valley a large intensively farmed valley about the size of Wales, not wide open like the eastern plains, lots' of people, a busy thriving place with lots' of action.
 

nxy

Member
Mixed Farmer
I moved to Canada twenty years ago and what was said above is very true. Some farming farming families moved here with the view Is was the promised land and the lure of cheap land and relative farming freedom couldn’t be passed up. I personally know many that moved from other countries and have done very well here but they all faced the same problems of the wives being away from friends and families,kids funding it hard to adjust to new schools without there friends and the general feeling that your all alone in the middle of no where. The men in general were fine as working in a new venture and the dream of making a go of things was what got them thru. The first couple of years was tough for me but I was lucky enough to meet other European farmers that had been here longer and just having that slight support network was comforting. For the most part it’s a great place to farm weather can be challenging and prices fluctuate but the one underlying factor of cheaper land and supply of it coming to market makes expansion possible.
At the moment farmer are still respected and considered vital to every community. It’s changed a lot in twenty years and I see it going the same way as Europe but for now it’s still a great place to farm and live.

I moved to France 20 years ago. I would say everything you said about Canada would be true about here too.

Replying to the original post it seems that there is more land round here for sale than not at the moment.
 

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