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fendt engine problems up to £25000 repair bill

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
But often those driving them have a different opinion to those that own and run them. Both are important. Does the driver of the 939 care that it's engines blown up? Probably not.

In my experience, many, if not most of the best drivers of such tractors, care very much about 'their baby'. Often they take it very personally if their tractor breaks down, almost feeling guilty of doing something wrong themselves.

Yes, really!
 

John 1594

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
Aye, but apart from Davey Broons you don't sit in enough stuff for long enough to be able to have significant experience on which to base many of your opinions. That's the way it looks to be, at any rate.

Your experience with DB's is, without doubt, extensive and comprehensive and you are the man to ask about them.


So the fact ive been driving deeres on and off since i was 16 doesnt count then? Or having a torturous 6 month stint on a valtra...less about that the better
 

John 1594

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
In my experience, many, if not most of the best drivers of such tractors, care very much about 'their baby'. Often they take it very personally if their tractor breaks down, almost feeling guilty of doing something wrong themselves.

Yes, really!


Can remember about 10 years ago, i had a brand new 6620 at the place where i worked...i did indeed treat that like my baby, its servicing took priority over everything else there, if anything was a miss id pester the dealer to get it sorted...nobody else hardly drove it, except to move it around the yard. I worked it hard from day 1, it was run in good thats for sure, 2 years and a couple of thousand hours...the only issue it had was all the O rings on the spool valves distorted and jammed up, so it had to go back to the dealer for a spool refurb


I left that job in august...by the end of harvest the next driver had blown the engine up, then the next year all the diff bearings broke up.

Was it something id done while it was in my care?
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
So the fact ive been driving deeres on and off since i was 16 doesnt count then? Or having a torturous 6 month stint on a valtra...less about that the better

99% of people who have driven those brands of mainstream tractors built late last century or this, would rate most models higher than a 1980's DB, which weren't even the dog's doo-da's even back in their day.

Every brand has produced rubbish models over the years, so I would not condemn whole generations of various brands based on a rogue troublesome model from brand-x.
 

John 1594

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
99% of people who have driven those brands of mainstream tractors built late last century or this, would rate most models higher than a 1980's DB, which weren't even the dog's doo-da's even back in their day.

Every brand has produced rubbish models over the years, so I would not condemn whole generations of various brands based on a rogue troublesome model from brand-x.


Horses for courses as they say...with regards to the fendt....i prefer the MF equivalent, having tried both, couldnt fault the 7616 apart from the poorly designed lift/lower buttons and the silly place they put the ignition key
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Can remember about 10 years ago, i had a brand new 6620 at the place where i worked...i did indeed treat that like my baby, its servicing took priority over everything else there, if anything was a miss id pester the dealer to get it sorted...nobody else hardly drove it, except to move it around the yard. I worked it hard from day 1, it was run in good thats for sure, 2 years and a couple of thousand hours...the only issue it had was all the O rings on the spool valves distorted and jammed up, so it had to go back to the dealer for a spool refurb


I left that job in august...by the end of harvest the next driver had blown the engine up, then the next year all the diff bearings broke up.

Was it something id done while it was in my care?
It was one of the rubbish models that I referred to in a previous post. They eventually got them sorted though, which was no consolation to those that had overheating transmissions, cooling problems, head gaskets, injectors, EGR, and so on, in any or all combinations.
 
I think I read on here that a Lexion had to have a new engine that cost 20k just for the engine. I think it was a cat engine, so a new engine in a large premium tractor at 25k fitted sounds over the top but not a million miles out. I suspect the tractor when new was somewhere around 200k??
 

AlfM

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Norfolk
We were told £35k for a complete re con engine for a beet harvester. £23k for long block which may of needed £3k turbo. I wasn't the one doing the talking to them and I know sweet fa about engines, but just for comparison. Didn't do either of the above.
 

JJT

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Cumbria
To be honest that is how we are feeling.

I was talking to a farmer yesterday who said he sprays when he has a runner to latch on the front. What colour was my reply, mid green.
What is mid green? Sorry, probably should be in the "grinds my gears" thread, but it annoys me when people say things like "mid green" or "light red", could mean any number of brands, why can't they just say what brand they mean? :mad:
 

Grassman

Member
Location
Derbyshire
If everyone based their purchasing decisions on all the horror stories about different machines some companies would be finished.
Yet for every horror story there will be countless silent happy customers.
Look at land rover. The Discovery is the the pits apparently. Yet it's a massive seller. There are always going to be problems with some when so many get sold.
Same with John Deere and some models.
McCormick are terrible!
New Holland bad gearboxes?
Fendt various are unreliable apparently.
The Internet is a very good way of transmitting information quickly. Good and bad!
 

Wombat

Member
BASIS
Location
East yorks
If everyone based their purchasing decisions on all the horror stories about different machines some companies would be finished.
Yet for every horror story there will be countless silent happy customers.
Look at land rover. The Discovery is the the pits apparently. Yet it's a massive seller. There are always going to be problems with some when so many get sold.
Same with John Deere and some models.
McCormick are terrible!
New Holland bad gearboxes?
Fendt various are unreliable apparently.
The Internet is a very good way of transmitting information quickly. Good and bad!

I think it always seems to transmit bad faster, maybe those who have a product that works fine don't feel the need to go online and say about it?
We just had a real nice weekend in London and the hotel was very good, will I go and write a review when it was good probably not as I have other things to do and the experience was as expected but I am sure if someone had had a bad one they definitely would??
 

Grassman

Member
Location
Derbyshire
I think it always seems to transmit bad faster, maybe those who have a product that works fine don't feel the need to go online and say about it?
We just had a real nice weekend in London and the hotel was very good, will I go and write a review when it was good probably not as I have other things to do and the experience was as expected but I am sure if someone had had a bad one they definitely would??
That's about it!
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
c'mon
You expect a company to do warranty work to 12 yr old machines?
The machines are made to do their design application for the warranty period- but that 1,2 or 5 years.
After that lads
You are on your own
As for this tractor
Where was it purchased
Serviced?
Main dealer
Small ads mag?
Just because its expensive doesn't make it bomb proof
Or better designed
With a premium brand some of the cost is snob value
Not engineering excellence
My stepson has just had a recall letter from BMW for his car its 15 years old, some fault with a air bag I think, they dont want personal injury claims, money counts so yes a 12 year old machine might be recalled. Heard a few years ago of a british built tractor (not blue) that had problems with front pto boxes, decided that it was cheaper to offer a cheap repair to any that failed rather than redesign them
 

Colin

Member
Location
Perthshire
It was one of the rubbish models that I referred to in a previous post. They eventually got them sorted though, which was no consolation to those that had overheating transmissions, cooling problems, head gaskets, injectors, EGR, and so on, in any or all combinations.
Nah it wasn't a crappy model, it was johns fault.
 

Colin

Member
Location
Perthshire
In my experience, many, if not most of the best drivers of such tractors, care very much about 'their baby'. Often they take it very personally if their tractor breaks down, almost feeling guilty of doing something wrong themselves.

Yes, really!
One of my guys is getting a bit despondent about the repeated, and I mean repeated as in the same thing many times, breakdowns in his tractor low hours, still warranted :whistle: biggest issue for me is the downtime, biggest issue for him us that any small change in noise etc etc is a surge of worry.
 

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