Fengrain Storage (275t) available to buy at a discounted price

[Daniel]

Building own 3000t on floor with drying and stirrers £250 / t.

Cheaper ways of doing it though.

£750'000 for a 3000 ton grainstore? ?

 

[Hereward]

Think Off farm grain stores will be busy this yr first yr were taking some to a central grain store.

Are you serious, why will they busy with so much fallow and poor crops about?

 

[Brisel]

Are you serious, why will they busy with so much fallow and poor crops about?

That was my thought too. Most members send a % of their crop in & would rather have a smaller crop at home & worry about how they are going to pay for the operating charge on unused space later, hoping that the store will find another use for it.

 

[Case290]

Yes small crops but so many different ones. Many farms arnt set up for lots of crops. Just easer to store off farm.

 

[ajd132]

All well and good but where’s the benefit in polishing up feed wheat?
When they have the equipment it tends to get used. At best that creates cost and weight loss for members without a tangible premium and at worst it is performed as a “contract” operation to generate revenue (from members) when it isn’t strictly necessary. Some might suggest it’s the equivalent of serviced agronomy in the grain storage business ?

Going to be interesting who the processors prefer to deal with in the future. Pooled stores of grains exact grade and spec for every load or hundreds of variable spec stuff from lots of different farms. Just the carbon footprint of rejections needs to be quantified in the future, what about carbon footprint of milling wheat where the N is too high? Agree if you are just growing feed stuff it’s not worth putting into CS. If you structure a business around putting most stuff into a CS there is other ways to offset the perceived higher cost, you need less full time staff (or none in our case on 1200ha) as their is essentially nothing to do all winter apart from a bit of maintenance and pigeon scaring. For us works really well and is cost effective. And we have to view it as more than just a place grain goes, it is an extension of our business and an important link from farm to our processing customers which personally I think is going to become more important into the future.

 

[Woldgrain Storage]

If its not public then it has to be advertised on a forum like this

There are currently two smaller parcels for sale at Woldgrain, (for sale to growers within 70 miles of DN21 5TU):

175mt - available for 2020

113mt - available for 2021


Further details available by DM.

 

[farenheit]

Going to be interesting who the processors prefer to deal with in the future. Pooled stores of grains exact grade and spec for every load or hundreds of variable spec stuff from lots of different farms. Just the carbon footprint of rejections needs to be quantified in the future, what about carbon footprint of milling wheat where the N is too high? Agree if you are just growing feed stuff it’s not worth putting into CS. If you structure a business around putting most stuff into a CS there is other ways to offset the perceived higher cost, you need less full time staff (or none in our case on 1200ha) as their is essentially nothing to do all winter apart from a bit of maintenance and pigeon scaring. For us works really well and is cost effective. And we have to view it as more than just a place grain goes, it is an extension of our business and an important link from farm to our processing customers which personally I think is going to become more important into the future.

Surely your business has two full time staff?

 

[farmerfred86]

There are currently two smaller parcels for sale at Woldgrain, (for sale to growers within 70 miles of DN21 5TU):

175mt - available for 2020

113mt - available for 2021


Further details available by DM.

How does Woldgrain approach second hand/used space? Is there a waiting list in house? Its seems far better to me to have people approach the CS company to find used space than seeing it advertised here or in a magazine but I'm impressed that you're actively trying to sell your members used space.

 

[Lincsman]

These threads always remind me of Angus Cereals

 

[teslacoils]

How does Woldgrain approach second hand/used space? Is there a waiting list in house? Its seems far better to me to have people approach the CS company to find used space than seeing it advertised here or in a magazine but I'm impressed that you're actively trying to sell your members used space.

We informed woldgrain we were looking to reduce our tonnage. They passed our details on to folk who were looking to buy. Price agreed. Was very simple.

 

[marcot]

Going to be interesting who the processors prefer to deal with in the future. Pooled stores of grains exact grade and spec for every load or hundreds of variable spec stuff from lots of different farms. Just the carbon footprint of rejections needs to be quantified in the future, what about carbon footprint of milling wheat where the N is too high? Agree if you are just growing feed stuff it’s not worth putting into CS. If you structure a business around putting most stuff into a CS there is other ways to offset the perceived higher cost, you need less full time staff (or none in our case on 1200ha) as their is essentially nothing to do all winter apart from a bit of maintenance and pigeon scaring. For us works really well and is cost effective. And we have to view it as more than just a place grain goes, it is an extension of our business and an important link from farm to our processing customers which personally I think is going to become more important into the future.

Dont you have a family interest in Camgrain which may sway your opinion?

 

[ajd132]

Dont you have a family interest in Camgrain which may sway your opinion?

Yes we are members

 

[ajd132]

Surely your business has two full time staff?

If you count me and my father I suppose, point is most business I know this size have a couple of extra full timers on top of the working partners. We don’t but probably would need someone else full time if we had grain to out load from various stores all winter. Problem with contract farming is you can end up with loads of sheds all over the place and spend the whole winter chasing around being messed about by hauliers.

 

[farenheit]

If you count me and my father I suppose, point is most business I know this size have a couple of extra full timers on top of the working partners. We don’t but probably would need someone else full time if we had grain to out load from various stores all winter. Problem with contract farming is you can end up with loads of sheds all over the place and spend the whole winter chasing around being messed about by hauliers.

I definitely count you and your father and I assume you must work hard enough to be considered full time staff! An odd quirk of farmers that don't consider staff 'staff' unless they aren't related!

 

[ajd132]

I definitely count you and your father and I assume you must work hard enough to be considered full time staff! An odd quirk of farmers that don't consider staff 'staff' unless they aren't related!

I meant we don’t employ any full time beyond the partners, I do cost our time into all management accounts accordingly (and generously!) we work hard when we need to.

 

[7610 super q]

These threads always remind me of Angus Cereals

Who he ?

 

[yellow belly]

Going to be interesting who the processors prefer to deal with in the future. Pooled stores of grains exact grade and spec for every load or hundreds of variable spec stuff from lots of different farms. Just the carbon footprint of rejections needs to be quantified in the future, what about carbon footprint of milling wheat where the N is too high? Agree if you are just growing feed stuff it’s not worth putting into CS. If you structure a business around putting most stuff into a CS there is other ways to offset the perceived higher cost, you need less full time staff (or none in our case on 1200ha) as their is essentially nothing to do all winter apart from a bit of maintenance and pigeon scaring. For us works really well and is cost effective. And we have to view it as more than just a place grain goes, it is an extension of our business and an important link from farm to our processing customers which personally I think is going to become more important into the future.

I delivered wheat to the local store as the buyers need it cleaned tested and weighed and graded before they collect it they do not take direct from farms
if that how they want it thats how they get it

 

[Banana Bar]

If you count me and my father I suppose, point is most business I know this size have a couple of extra full timers on top of the working partners. We don’t but probably would need someone else full time if we had grain to out load from various stores all winter. Problem with contract farming is you can end up with loads of sheds all over the place and spend the whole winter chasing around being messed about by hauliers.

If you have the right hauliers this is no issue. MF Haulage do the job right.

 

[ajd132]

If you have the right hauliers this is no issue. MF Haulage do the job right.

That’s fair

 

[ajd132]

I delivered wheat to the local store as the buyers need it cleaned tested and weighed and graded before they collect it they do not take direct from farms
if that how they want it thats how they get it

I think there will be more of this, big savings for both parties. Happy to work with hundreds of other farmers to provide a product to exact spec for the processors.