Filling in a registered quarry, what permissions and tick box's are required?

[Joe will]

As per the title on the farm there is a 1.7acre quarry. Id like to fill it in but wonder what licences or documents are required. It's currently got a fair covering of elder and hawthorn coving it. Would be 14ft top to bottom. Won't be much in the way of ecology there, as I have pigs currently rooting the full basen over and eating everything.

Any help would be brill apologies if this is the wrong section.

 

[puppet]

Planning, EA, lots of specialist environmental reports, Water Company, roads department, HMRC, Customs and Excise, rateable value, insurance bond for reinstatement and multiple objections from neighbours.
Apart from those will be a breeze.

 

[Joe will]

Might as well grad the edge and fill it with glamping then.

 

[serf]

Planning, EA, lots of specialist environmental reports, Water Company, roads department, HMRC, Customs and Excise, rateable value, insurance bond for reinstatement and multiple objections from neighbours.
Apart from those will be a breeze.

JFDI then ...

 

[puppet]

It can be done but the penalties for burying the wrong stuff can be astronomical plus having to dig it up again

 

[lloyd]

Planning, EA, lots of specialist environmental reports, Water Company, roads department, HMRC, Customs and Excise, rateable value, insurance bond for reinstatement and multiple objections from neighbours.
Apart from those will be a breeze.

How many of those would you have had 40 years ago?

 

[serf]

How many of those would you have had 40 years ago?

Jobs 4 the boys ...

 

[Old apprentice]

A few fairly local have levelled fields up with soil from development sites I think it is a local authority tiping livence.

 

[MrNoo]

We had one here, not a huge one admittedly and father in his early years filled it in, then for pretty much the rest of his life he moaned he wished he'd not filled it in. There was and still is plenty of Cotswold stone in it.

 

[AR Enviro]

I'm out of sync with english regs but I'd say you're talking approx 25,000 ton which would be subject to £80k ish of inert landfill tax plus at least 100K plus start up costs -

You'd need to be getting £20+ a ton for inert waste to make it worth while but don't know what the standard gate fees are in your area.

Then a security bond will be required, which could be any figure (they will work out how much per ton it would cost them to clean the site up if it went pete tong, i.e, £50 per ton clean up x 25,000 tonnes = 1.25m securities in place and it is quite possible that they could want the non-inert landfill price of £150 per ton x 25,000 = money!

A paragraph U9 or 11 could be your best bet but the tonnages allowed are so low now that you'd be playing the long game with fill-up - you'd have a fraction of the start-up costs but also a fraction of the earning potential.

There are firms out there that would rent it from you for filling but just remember you're still liable as the landowner if something goes wrong and you have to pay any monies to HMRC. I dunno but rent it out for £8 per ton perhaps for inert wastes only (you'll still have to pay £3.25 tax per ton).

 

[Joe will]

There was me thinking it would be a case of an application to EA or DEFRA. Followed by and Ecology sign off and then pop down to smiths or a local muck away company and be handed a ticket to state clean waste and just que the lorries. Id hire a dozer or 18t digger to shift it over the site.

 

[AR Enviro]

You could fill it up with PAS100 compost.. but if HMRC comes knocking they will be looking their tax for anything over 1m filling depth.

 

[lloyd]

There was me thinking it would be a case of an application to EA or DEFRA. Followed by and Ecology sign off and then pop down to smiths or a local muck away company and be handed a ticket to state clean waste and just que the lorries. Id hire a dozer or 18t digger to shift it over the site.

Are you close to the urban fringe?

 

[Tarw Coch]

Wish I’d got an on farm quarry, I’d be busy digging out not filling in

 

[Exfarmer]

you will certainly need the permits and this will entail checks for all manner of beasties and I would be very surprised if your site does not have both bats and newts with its cover of hawthorn and elder is sounds a great places for all kinds. if your local authority is needing space for inert waste it will help greatly but my experience council workers are about the worst kind of people for describing kerb stones as topsoil

 

[Joe will]

You could fill it up with PAS100 compost.. but if HMRC comes knocking they will be looking their tax for anything over 1m filling depth.

This could be interesting as part of it is only 1m ISH deep and how would anyone know if it was more or less?

 

[Joe will]

Wish I’d got an on farm quarry, I’d be busy digging out not filling in

I think it's better to pick the stone off the field then digging it out the ground.

 

[Joe will]

you will certainly need the permits and this will entail checks for all manner of beasties and I would be very surprised if your site does not have both bats and newts with its cover of hawthorn and elder is sounds a great places for all kinds. if your local authority is needing space for inert waste it will help greatly but my experience council workers are about the worst kind of people for describing kerb stones as topsoil

The pigs are dealing with the eco side of things apart from the bushes there won't be anything left by time they have finished.

 

[AR Enviro]

This could be interesting as part of it is only 1m ISH deep and how would anyone know if it was more or less?

I can't find your post now where you said that it is an average of 0.9m across the entire cross-section

You won't need any permits but must abide by cross-compliance rules i.e, suitable distances from water courses, etc

 

[Tarw Coch]

I think it's better to pick the stone off the field then digging it out the ground.

There a 10 ton trailer load of stone under some concrete here, I think picking it is highly over rated, especially asi could find a use for thousands of tons of it if I could dig it on farm