Footpath problem

[steveR]

When I took on this farm three years ago my top field was badly fenced so I renewed it. Fella with two sons and a dog kept cutting the fence, in two places, so he could take a short cut across my field to wherever. Blocked up his little path with logs, branches and tree trunks. He kept cutting the fence and pulled everything out onto the field. This happened about half a dozen times. Bought a nice trail camera and nailed it to a tree looking at fence.
Then nailed blown up stills from the video to the fence post showing him cutting fence and dragging out logs.
Also nailed note to fence saying "I know who you are now and so do the police"
Found pictures and note ripped into pieces and stamped into the mud.
He hasn't been back.

Result!

 

[dudders]

If i put a camera up i would have to say there are cameras? I have 4 I could put up. They are camouflage ones and take great picture of the wildlife. but a red light appears, so at night yo would see it.

If your cameras are so placed as to be filming the public footpath, then yes, you need a sign at each end saying so and why. But if the cameras are only covering the fields, then no, you don't. So the ideal would be to position them so that they only cover the field, without including any footpath. May be tricky, but I've done it here by strapping the camera up a tree. This would be useful to show the police why Mr Difficult needs an official caution about aggravated trespass.

If a red light shows, it may be that your camera isn't set up right, so check the instructions. Otherwise, just tape it over or stick putty/BluTack on it.

Solicitor? Legal Aid?

 

[Blue.]

Why are you worrying about the quality of the footpath? It is not your responsibility, if it gets wet or muddy. There is a right to pass (on the path), nothing more. If the surface is difficult going, then that is the councils responsibility to sort it out. On older "B" roads the adjacent farmers own the road, I don't think you find them resurfacing the highway when it gets potholed!!!

Fence it (with barbed the other side of the posts), then if you find someone on your side of the fence, ask them to leave, maybe buy a gopro to record the interactions.

If the fence is cut, install a trail cam and inform the Police and report criminal damage.

My concern is if the ground is muddy they’ll climb on the fence to avoid the mud or cut the fence to take a short cut,I’ve bought astro turf to lay on the line of the footpath (1000m) to try and cover all bases,I’m losing enough land as it is, I just want to protect my livestock from the public and vice versa.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

My concern is if the ground is muddy they’ll climb on the fence to avoid the mud or cut the fence to take a short cut,I’ve bought astro turf to lay on the line of the footpath (1000m) to try and cover all bases,I’m losing enough land as it is, I just want to protect my livestock from the public and vice versa.

That route lies anarchy, the right of way is the right of way, if anyone decides to undertake criminal damage and then trespass they need to feel the full weight of criminal and civil law. I strongly believe we must not bend over and allow ourselves to be kicked around.

 

[Blue.]

That route lies anarchy, the right of way is the right of way, if anyone decides to undertake criminal damage and then trespass they need to feel the full weight of criminal and civil law. I strongly believe we must not bend over and allow ourselves to be kicked around.

I believe the same,make it pedestrian friendly and the shouldn’t feel the need to damage fences.

 

[tepapa]

My concern is if the ground is muddy they’ll climb on the fence to avoid the mud or cut the fence to take a short cut,I’ve bought astro turf to lay on the line of the footpath (1000m) to try and cover all bases,I’m losing enough land as it is, I just want to protect my livestock from the public and vice versa.

I think by putting AstroTurf you'll be making it worse. If someone was to slip on the path you've laid there'll probably more of a claim compared to normal mud.

 

[MRT]

I believe the same,make it pedestrian friendly and the shouldn’t feel the need to damage fences.

Last time I tripped over a badly laid kerb in town I didn't feel the need to smash a shop window

 

[Blue.]

I think by putting AstroTurf you'll be making it worse. If someone was to slip on the path you've laid there'll probably more of a claim compared to normal mud.

The surface is the highways responsibility though,I’ve a 200m stretch I did in the spring it’s a dream to walk on compared to mud.
I don’t sign up to the claim culture they can f**k off!

 

[Lazy Sod]

If your cameras are so placed as to be filming the public footpath, then yes, you need a sign at each end saying so and why. But if the cameras are only covering the fields, then no, you don't. So the ideal would be to position them so that they only cover the field, without including any footpath. May be tricky, but I've done it here by strapping the camera up a tree. This would be useful to show the police why Mr Difficult needs an official caution about aggravated trespass.

Why do you need signs go tell people that they are being filmed when on the footpath when you can film them with a dashcam freely if they are on a pavement?

 

[Farmer_Joe]

The surface is the highways responsibility though,I’ve a 200m stretch I did in the spring it’s a dream to walk on compared to mud.
I don’t sign up to the claim culture they can f**k off!

you got any spare i could do with 2 rolls, your lancs are you not?

willing to pay! better wasted on me than paths!!!

 

[Blue.]

you got any spare i could do with 2 rolls, your lancs are you not?

willing to pay! better wasted on me than paths!!!

I got x3 artic loads,only laid 200m so far and being very tight I cut the rolls in half so there 1m wide.

I’ll see how much I’ve left over.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

I got x3 artic loads,only laid 200m so far and being very tight I cut the rolls in half so there 1m wide.

I’ll see how much I’ve left over.

pm me, i cant pm you?

would be keen if you can spare 2 rolls, quite happy to pay or do some trade.

 

[Nearly]

pm me, i cant pm you?

would be keen if you can spare 2 rolls, quite happy to pay or do some trade.

Can you milk coos?

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Can you milk coos?

No thankfully we gave it in as I reached an age where I may have been asked!!

you got some turf going spare!

 

[Nearly]

No thankfully we gave it in as I reached an age where I may have been asked!!

you got some turf going spare!

No, just asking on behalf of @eulb

 

[Old Boar]

I can send you some bramble cuttings if you like. I would rather try and get through a barb fence than a bramble bush! Cut them back every year and they make a fence even a piglet stuggles to get through.

 

[Boomerang]

You are allowed barbed wire, it has too be on the reverse side of the post though not on the inside of it… and it’s also allowed on the gate aslong as the gate is more than 1.2metres from the public highway, if it’s on the public highway then your not allowed… going there later today hopefully I’ll take some pictures but highways England have been out because of complaints and said it’s perfectly fine

There is a rather grand old house (small to medium sized hall) in a really nice quite posh village near here , there is a footpath round the edge of the grounds, walled and fenced , with not barbedwire but razor wire on top , owned by russian guy, the locals have had issues in the past with his heavies trying to block access to their property.
I thought razor wire was illegal there is a lot of it.

 

[TheTallGuy]

There is a rather grand old house (small to medium sized hall) in a really nice quite posh village near here , there is a footpath round the edge of the grounds, walled and fenced , with not barbedwire but razor wire on top , owned by russian guy, the locals have had issues in the past with his heavies trying to block access to their property.
I thought razor wire was illegal there is a lot of it.

Not illegal, but you can potentially be prosecuted if someone hurts themselves & you haven't taken reasonable steps to prevent injuries.
https://www.razorwireuk.com/faq/

 

[bobk]

Fight fire with more fire , they only understand one language ,

 

[tessflower42]

Why are you worrying about the quality of the footpath? It is not your responsibility, if it gets wet or muddy. There is a right to pass (on the path), nothing more. If the surface is difficult going, then that is the councils responsibility to sort it out. On older "B" roads the adjacent farmers own the road, I don't think you find them resurfacing the highway when it gets potholed!!!

Fence it (with barbed the other side of the posts), then if you find someone on your side of the fence, ask them to leave, maybe buy a gopro to record the interactions.

If the fence is cut, install a trail cam and inform the Police and report criminal damage.

HI, the only reason I said about the footpath muddy etc. I know damn well that people will walk the other side of the fence or anywhere in the field to be honest.. and knowing what these lot are like we will most probably get the blame for any other instances.. the highways said we had to make it good first then they will keep up the standard.. yeah right!! We have a on going reports to the police. To begin with we didn't. then the local PSCO came, they did a rural week campaign about the sheep getting attacked etc. Our signs kept getting stolen, so we had to report it. So we have a long list of what people are doing here. I wish it wasn't a family farm with ties, otherwise we would be gone. its ridiculous. I do like the sound of barbed wire on the other side. sounds a brill idea. Also with the go pro. Because it would show what people are like around here. great ideas thanks.

You say about the pot holes, yep so true, this is the road to ours!! This happens every time it rains, has done for over 10 years and nothing gets done. over the top of your wellies some days. Loads of pot holes, broken road, drains broken, took out storm drains and put in farty little ones.. So you can imagine what the fields are like..