France, lockdown?

[le bon paysan]

Sweden isnt over populated so it wasnt ever going to take hold there whatever they did, south korea were held up as masters of preventing the spread but even they had second waves

But handled without the hysterics of UK media.
Wavering between we're all gonna die and what a load of crap.
Off to watch new Terminator now
There's a thought!

 

[Lowland1]

Sweden isnt over populated so it wasnt ever going to take hold there whatever they did, south korea were held up as masters of preventing the spread but even they had second waves.
Anybody with half a brain could see that when restrictions lifted and people began to mingle the disease would spike, it hadnt gone away and we hadnt a cure so it was obvious .
The media and government are downplaying the virus if anything, hospital staff are sh##ting themselves at what they know is coming. They cannot cope during a normal winter usually but people seem to have forgotten this.

The urban areas of Sweden have a similar population density to the U.K obviously Sweden is not a transportation hub like the UK so would not have the initial numbers that U.K had but if their policy was not working we would have seen it now. In countries with a low median age and low numbers of Old folk there is a very low death rate and because no one is being tested no one knows the infection rate. In Tanzania talking about CV19 is banned and believe it or not some people are still alive.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Testing is available , there's capacity here. We have to look at the hospitalisations and death rate.
Marseilles not looking good.
Over 30 million world wide positive. Death rate is a tiny fraction.
Was Sweden the correct way to go?
Look how many the boxing day Tsunami killed and the Haiti earthquake. Most in the west wrung their hands and promptly forgot about it. Unless you knew someone.
The economic repercussions of this might be compared to the Tulip bulb recession in the 1600s. Bloody stupid when we look back now.

I am beginning to think that the death rate may be the wrong thing to be looking at. The growing evidence on the numbers of people who contract Covid but then take months and what could turn out to be years to recover could have far more serious implications. Preliminary findings are showing between 10-25% of all people who contract Covid and require hospitalisation are still suffering lung damage alone. That's before you add in damage to the heart and other organs. Apparently, 38% of People who contracted SARS corona virus 15 years ago are still suffering from reduced lung function.

 

[le bon paysan]

I am beginning to think that the death rate may be the wrong thing to be looking at. The growing evidence on the numbers of people who contract Covid but then take months and what could turn out to be years to recover could have far more serious implications. Preliminary findings are showing between 10-25% of all people who contract Covid and require hospitalisation are still suffering lung damage alone. That's before you add in damage to the heart and other organs. Apparently, 38% of People who contracted SARS corona virus 15 years ago are still suffering from reduced lung function.

I appreciate there is a "long covid" effect. 10 to 25 % of all positives would be dreadful. However, what is the percentage of hospitalisations of total positives?
I'm really concerned about the economic effects of how this is being handled in and the number of people with treatable conditions who are not receiving treatment. Which pertains to a friend in the UK.

 

[bobk]

I appreciate there is a "long covid" effect. 10 to 25 % of all positives would be dreadful. However, what is the percentage of hospitalisations of total positives?
I'm really concerned about the economic effects of how this is being handled in and the number of people with treatable conditions who are not receiving treatment. Which pertains to a friend in the UK.

Certainly far more deaths from delayed or stopped treatment , but I do think if this virus gets endemic in a population the results could be unprecedented .

 

[7610 super q]

Too add.
Also sick of the lies in UK media
Rhonda c19 outbreak caused by Doncaster races.
Complete lie
They had hotel booked , went to Doncaster, went to bookies and pee up in hotel. They never went near the racecourse. Doncaster put out a press release saying no one was admitted from South Wales, track and trace in operation linked to admission tickets and test, no one from NHS or Welsh government contacted them.
Complete false story. No retraction or correction on UK news.
What the hell goes on in the UK these days?

One cluster caused by morons returning from a foreign holiday, another by morons on a rugby club pub crawl.

 

[bobk]

One cluster caused by morons returning from a foreign holiday, another by morons on a rugby club pub crawl.

Welsh morons ?

 

[7610 super q]

Welsh morons ?

'fraid so.

 

[arcobob]

Welsh morons ?

Morons everywhere. Nobody has a monopoly.

 

[bobk]

Morons everywhere. Nobody has a monopoly.

North Staffs hospital trust has no covid patients in ICU presently ,

 

[arcobob]

The government has to decide whether to save the pubs and restaurants from bankruptcy or save the nation from the virus. The simple fact remains, alcohol and good behaviour do not mix. They are about to stop me from meeting my close family but I can go into a pub, get pis5ed in the company of any number of strangers by 10pm. This is getting beyond a joke.

 

[arcobob]

North Staffs hospital trust has no covid patients in ICU presently ,

Your turn may come.

 

[bobk]

Your turn may come.

I've got a stinking cold ....

 

[arcobob]

I've got a stinking cold ....

So have two of my grandchildren. They are still going to school but because there are seven of us we can only meet in the pub.

 

[7610 super q]

What's the reason ? Difficult to imagine a nation more stupid than us for not self isolating/ wearing masks etc. Or are they just 2 weeks ahead of us again ?

OK, so I was right, we're 2- 3 weeks behind. How are things fairing in France / Spain now ? Are they doing local wack a mole lockdowns still, or national lockdowns.....or no lockdown at all ?

 

[bobk]

OK, so I was right, we're 2- 3 weeks behind. How are things fairing in France / Spain now ? Are they doing local wack a mole lockdowns still, or national lockdowns.....or no lockdown at all ?

I think you need to accept that it's here until a vaccine is produced or enough folk have had it to lessen it's transmittance.
In 99% of people it's a mild illness

 

[le bon paysan]

France has just made Paris and other major cities Super Red or Scarlet, Coronavirus classification. With new regulations to come

 

[Honest john]

Looking at the statistics for France, they've had 229,814 CV cases, of which 84,065 have recovered, and 30,480 died. That leaves 114,885 who are still not recovered in mild condition and 384 serious or critical. Six months in to the pandemic, and roughly half of those who catch it are still not recovered. I find that part as scary as the deaths, to be honest. If this thing rips through the entire population, could we really end up with almost half of the population being incapacitated for a long time? Could the farming industry function with that much of a hit to the workforce?

That’s what really worry’s me, & we hear little of the folk sitting at home unable to work.

There have been folk on radio this week that are in a bad way, but are they recorded even ?

 

[arcobob]

That’s what really worry’s me, & we here little of the folk sitting at home unable to work.

There have been folk on radio this week that are in a bad way, but are they recorded even ?

Have you heard of the hordes sitting on the beach in north west Norfolk and clogging the roads earlier in the week. I mean work days , not weekends. I really do not believe that most of these people cannot work. A few butts need kicking I think.

 

[bobk]

Have you heard of the hordes sitting on the beach in north west Norfolk and clogging the roads earlier in the week. I mean work days , not weekends. I really do not believe that most of these people cannot work. A few butts need kicking I think.

Makes you wonder who does work in this country .