Front tank plumbing into rear via banjo fitting

[Driller]

Hi, I’ve a front tank(hardi 1000ts) that I want to plumb into the rear vicon ixter, what’s the best (cheapest,as it’s not front tank ready) way?
I’ve seen holes cut and bulkhead adaptors used in the rear and simply blow it back using the pacer pump on the front tank( which I already have) is this the quickest and most basic way of doing it or can I T into the plumbing on the sprayer some where ?
Many thanks.

 

[Robt]

Hi, I’ve a front tank(hardi 1000ts) that I want to plumb into the rear vicon ixter, what’s the best (cheapest,as it’s not front tank ready) way?
I’ve seen holes cut and bulkhead adaptors used in the rear and simply blow it back using the pacer pump on the front tank( which I already have) is this the quickest and most basic way of doing it or can I T into the plumbing on the sprayer some where ?
Many thanks.

surely you can just plug it into the suction port? then either suck it into back tank or pump it (with pacer pump) into rear tank? Sorry if ive miss understood your problem.
So how do you currently fill the rear tank? Yes i know you will be potentially contaminating the clean water inlet, so I suppose thats your worry?

 

[Oliveau]

surely you can just plug it into the suction port? then either suck it into back tank or pump it (with pacer pump) into rear tank? Sorry if ive miss understood your problem.
So how do you currently fill the rear tank? Yes i know you will be potentially contaminating the clean water inlet, so I suppose thats your worry?

Yes, you are on the right lines with a bulkhead fitting. Then you can keep spraying while transferring from the front tank. Does the pacer pump keep the front tank contents agitated? If so you will need a 3 way valve to control the flow direction. SAFI electric valve would do the job

 

[Driller]

surely you can just plug it into the suction port? then either suck it into back tank or pump it (with pacer pump) into rear tank? Sorry if ive miss understood your problem.
So how do you currently fill the rear tank? Yes i know you will be potentially contaminating the clean water inlet, so I suppose thats your worry?

Exactly my thinking. Don’t really want to put spray mix in the clean water port, I did think about plumbing into the chemical induction hopper and doing it that way but might be more work.

Yes, you are on the right lines with a bulkhead fitting. Then you can keep spraying while transferring from the front tank. Does the pacer pump keep the front tank contents agitated? If so you will need a 3 way valve to control the flow direction. SAFI electric valve would do the job

thankyou for that, it’s got a 3 way valve already fitted so I’m thinking of going down the bulkhead fitting route so I can self fill the front, agitate and then transfer when I need to, I was just wondering if anyone had done it different.

 

[Chae1]

Exactly my thinking. Don’t really want to put spray mix in the clean water port, I did think about plumbing into the chemical induction hopper and doing it that way but might be more work.

thankyou for that, it’s got a 3 way valve already fitted so I’m thinking of going down the bulkhead fitting route so I can self fill the front, agitate and then transfer when I need to, I was just wondering if anyone had done it different.

My front tanks filled through rear induction hopper. I'll take a picture of how it's plumbed up next time I'm at it.

 

[Zebbedee]

I had same sprayer as you, I just put a bulkhead fitting on top of rear tank with a hose into bottom to avoid frothing.
Then filled front tank through the top and washed cans when filling rear tank with induction hopper. Electric 3 way valve changes from circulation on front to pump it to rear tank dead simple and controllable. If steep ground you can choose when to transfer and keep weight right

 

[chickens and wheat]

I put a t in short hose from tank to pump,.
Front tank pump had a loop and valves so it could either suck from or blow to rear.
It was possible to fill rear tank to 600 adding chem with induction, suck that to front, then fill rear.

In practice that was tricky as a complicated mix took longer to pour than fill time of tank.

Instead i built a large platform step so as to add chem through front tank lid safely, then rinse containers into rear induction while filling rear.

In reality 30% of fills ended up with only water in front, so further improvement to system seemed ott

 

[SRRC]

If you can use existing entries in the tanks, usually they'll have some sort of reinforcement.

 

[2wheels]

I put a t in short hose from tank to pump,.
Front tank pump had a loop and valves so it could either suck from or blow to rear.
It was possible to fill rear tank to 600 adding chem with induction, suck that to front, then fill rear.

In practice that was tricky as a complicated mix took longer to pour than fill time of tank.

Instead i built a large platform step so as to add chem through front tank lid safely, then rinse containers into rear induction while filling rear.

In reality 30% of fills ended up with only water in front, so further improvement to system seemed ott

if you had put all your chems into the 600lts, mixed it then transferred 300lts of the mix to the other tank and topped up both tanks with clean water you would save yourself a lot of time/hassle.

 

[chickens and wheat]

Yes did that to some extent 600 front 1200 rear,but had to be quick on the pour with tank mixes,

 

[Chae1]

Mines 2 seperate tank mixes. Its a bit of a pain in the arse sometimes.

 

[2wheels]

Mines 2 seperate tank mixes. Its a bit of a pain in the arse sometimes.

can you not do the mix in the front tank and transfer to rear? that is the way i did it with a landquip.

 

[agelababypo]

Mines 2 seperate tank mixes. Its a bit of a pain in the arse sometimes. 1v1 battle

thanks for help

 

[Driller]

if you had put all your chems into the 600lts, mixed it then transferred 300lts of the mix to the other tank and topped up both tanks with clean water you would save yourself a lot of time/hassle.

that would only work if both tanks were the same capacity surely?
I‘ve got 2000lts rear and 1000lts front

 

[Chae1]

that would only work if both tanks were the same capacity surely?
I‘ve got 2000lts rear and 1000lts front

Just have 1/3rd concentrated mix in front, 2/3rds in back.

I don't fill that way with mine.

You've to glug all the chemicals in anyway. I do seperate mixes.

 

[2wheels]

that would only work if both tanks were the same capacity surely?
I‘ve got 2000lts rear and 1000lts front

no, you transfer your mix in the ratio of 2/3-1/3 then top up with water. i,m not being a smartarse as i didn't discover this method myself, a guy was watching me fill /mix the tanks separately and he pointed out the easy way. a light bulb moment. other odd tank sizes are easily worked out.

 

[Chae1]

no, you transfer your mix in the ratio of 2/3-1/3 then top up with water. i,m not being a smartarse as i didn't discover this method myself, a guy was watching me fill /mix the tanks separately and he pointed out the easy way. a light bulb moment. other odd tank sizes are easily worked out.

With mine, using induction bowl to transfer I don't think you can transfer back to front. You can only transfer when filling through induction bowl.

What's the benefit of a concentrate mix then transferring forward?

Could you still take on water while transferring it?

 

[2wheels]

With mine, using induction bowl to transfer I don't think you can transfer back to front. You can only transfer when filling through induction bowl.

ok, that puts a different perspective on it.

 

[Driller]

no, you transfer your mix in the ratio of 2/3-1/3 then top up with water. i,m not being a smartarse as i didn't discover this method myself, a guy was watching me fill /mix the tanks separately and he pointed out the easy way. a light bulb moment. other odd tank sizes are easily worked out.

Yeah, I’ve now got my head around it, for now I’ll fill the rear through the self fill and induction hopper and just pour the Chemical in the front and fill until I’ll feel comfortable to do it like you say.

 

[PSQ]

Or if there's spare labour on the farm, mix up in a 3000L static bowser and the sprayer can then just 'transfer and go' in minutes.
It means the driver can cover a hell of an area in a day when someone else is concentrating on the leg work in the yard.
A smaller bowser could be used, but you'd have to top up with water at filling.