Getting paid for straw ?

[lloyd]

Of course there is,
Have you managed to get a loader that does not have the forks ratchet strapped to the carriage yet In your own words.
Twaaatts deal with twattsss and will be sucked in by a proportion of those they deal with, same for op as yourself. If you continually chase the elusive fiver you will be had and good for them.

Why would anyone need to be had as long as the person
you sell to is SOLVENT .

 

[Sid]

It’s pretty straightforward over here. Payment before anything leaves or is unloaded. There is a reason for that, as you found out.

The hay Jockeys ruined it for everyone

Even cull cows
Plenty have been caught by livestock dealers not paying either!

I feel like there’s 2 sides too every story and we are only getting 1 side

3 side
Person A, person B and somewhere jn the middle the truth

 

[puntabrava]

Why would anyone need to be had as long as the person
you sell to is SOLVENT .

You forever seek an extra fiver from a deal instead of continuing business with a proven individual you will be taken now and again, such is the territory.
I hate to burst your bubble but there are people with lots of money who made it by being unscrupulous.

 

[lloyd]

You forever seek an extra fiver from a deal instead of continuing business with a proven individual you will be taken now and again, such is the territory.

I agree to stick with someone reliable that pays fair and clears the
straw quickly but if it's an unpaid debt that has been invoiced properly
extracting the money from solvent individuals isn't a problem.
The worst cases can be neighbours or associates where it puts you at
odds to taking that action, that's why I tend not to deal that way anymore.
You haven't burst any bubble I was talking in the context of selling straw
not other business dealings.

 

[Clive]

You forever seek an extra fiver from a deal instead of continuing business with a proven individual you will be taken now and again, such is the territory.
I hate to burst your bubble but there are people with lots of money who made it by being unscrupulous.

i actually have sold slightly below levels i know others have got locally to try build a relationship that works for all - clearly pointless though !

i discounted a big area of barley straw that got rained on despite that not really being my problem

its hard to see who we could be much more reasonable really …….. and this is the second year in a row payment has been seriously late, just not on imo

 

[bobk]

Chances are the geezer that bought it hasn't sold it , we're in high demand straw area , job's as dead as a dead thing

 

[SilliamWhale]

If I don't get payed I blame myself for being a fool , a bloody big fool in the past , one guy from Shropshire who is well known on Social media took me for a good few thousand , I will never get payed , one load is perhaps excusable , but giving him another load without first payment is maddness being a new customer I did not know , I damn well know him now
Go through the proper channels to recoup what's owed and make sure u learn from your mistake , it's taken me years to learn
Tarring straw dealers all with the same brush is bad form and not nice

Mind that means that all your other good paying customers carry that debt indirectly

 

[An Gof]

In fact, it's the moorland cowboys are the real loons!

(We do quite a bit of nefarious doin's with a former Romanian cage fighter as it goes...but he's a pussy cat compared to some of the bruisers out over the veldt)

Yes I can vouch for that with two past experiences when
I was in the trade……… the families were related ……. But most of them are on the moor. You would know them @egbert They’m between me and you

 

[principal skinner]

I only sell to two people, the next door dairy have the home farm and the outlying farm goes to a trusted merchant (friend) and from him i have had the same price per ton for the last four years, price was agreed at the start for a long term agreement, some i loose, some him. Payment has never been later than end Sept.

Did get had on some cattle a few years ago, I hope he reads this and works out who I am, as I have a long memory..................................................

 

[puntabrava]

i actually have sold slightly below levels i know others have got locally to try build a relationship that works for all - clearly pointless though !

i discounted a big area of barley straw that got rained on despite that not really being my problem

its hard to see who we could be much more reasonable really …….. and this is the second year in a row payment has been seriously late, just not on imo

Second year from the same person?

 

[Still Farming]

I feel like there’s 2 sides too every story and we are only getting 1 side

Maybe their on here?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Not much of a forum if folks don't start threads......

If it fits the mods mold , if it don't it gets moved ,
And certain things should be kept in the office
And , if a pidgeon craps on you does that make all pigeons bad
He started off on the wrong foot ,if he should have ever started at all

 

[deleted user 837354]

9 pages of replies and no one has yet suggested killing anyone or torching anything. TFF has turned over a new leaf for 2022 it seems.

 

[Lexion1000]

There are plenty of good reliable businesses in the straw game but dealing straw definitely attracts more than it’s fair share of shysters! Reliable customers year on year is the best approach even if it doesn’t mean you’re hitting top prices. At least you can rule out a load of hassle and worry.

 

[Still Farming]

9 pages of replies and no one has yet suggested killing anyone or torching anything. TFF has turned over a new leaf for 2022 it seems.

Woke ness for you.

 

[deleted user 837354]

 

[marco]

Sometimes works the other way , local farmer agreed price with farm manager and by the time he went to bale was told prices had gone up so pay extra or go. Too late then to go elsewhere so paid.

Would make you want to put a match to it, then ring him and say it's gone up alright.... Up in smoke

 

[puntabrava]

extracting the money from solvent individuals isn't a problem.

You need to understand that there are professional non payers, they are not worth taking to court as they will make the first payment of £12 and then stop, necessitating the need to take them back to court, you will not beat them by legal means

 

[bobk]

You need to understand that there are professional non payers, they are not worth taking to court as they will make the first payment of £12 and then stop, necessitating the need to take them back to court, you will not beat them by legal means

What's your moddus operandi for slow / non payers ?

 

[puntabrava]

What's your moddus operandi for slow / non payers ?

If you meet me you will know I don’t need one.
I lost a load a few years ago to a chap from Torquay that had a 10 acre holding and got divorced and borrowed a load of money from the Acorn finance chap at Taunton who repossessed everything and had the farmer and his 80 odd year old mother living in the cubicle shed because the 20 odd cattle they had were TB restricted and they were holding on there with that. I have never bothered since one visit as you cannot get what is not there. My one debt in 30 years of contracting.