Good Welfare?

[unlacedgecko]

Should this cow have been rebred? Is this practice in keeping with the "highest animal welfare standards in the world"?

 

[Kiwi Pete]

FFS and they're breeding off her

High welfare my arse, that's plain wrong

 

[Beef farmer]

2 wrongs dont make right

 

[endeavour]

Can not see her feet but is she in pain or just disabled, to adopt human values this is important as I do hope no one considers euthanasia for me because I walk with a stick all be it only a few yards I still enjoy life!!!!!!

 

[O'Reilly]

Unbelievable. There's a chap on YouTube called the hoof GP who has at least one video showing a cow lame on both her back feet that is so sore she should be shot. I suppose he's trying to give the vegans ammunition or something.

 

[Beef farmer]

Can not see her feet but is she in pain or just disabled, to adopt human values this is important as I do hope no one considers euthanasia for me because I walk with a stick all be it only a few yards I still enjoy life!!!!!!

Exactly this.

 

[unlacedgecko]

2 wrongs dont make right

I asked the same questions on twitter (on the original post). But I know little of dairy cow lameness, hence my question here.

 

[Mc115reed]

Surely she should be milked dry then culled? Breeding replacements or even beef calves off her is surely just breeding more bad genetics into the world?

 

[dinderleat]

Probably a toe necrosis should be on the barren list and culled out. But everyone is different I suppose.

 

[M-J-G]

Either sort her feet or cull her.

And FFS don't humanize her, that's what causes welfare to go down the tubes, we see it all the time with clueless pet owners.

People have awareness of life and death, they can help themselves and they have choices in what they do. The cow has none of the above.

If a cow lives one more day or 5 more years, she'll still enjoy today just the same.

 

[Beef farmer]

If a cow lives one more day or 5 more years, she'll still enjoy today just the same.

Same as us all

 

[Beef farmer]

If a cow lives one more day or 5 more years, she'll still enjoy today just the same.

Same as us all

 

[Farmer Fin]

Can not see her feet but is she in pain or just disabled, to adopt human values this is important as I do hope no one considers euthanasia for me because I walk with a stick all be it only a few yards I still enjoy life!!!!!!

They clearly feel a block makes her walk better which means that she is in pain. Very few cows have a functional lameness (altered mobility not caused by pain) most are due to pain. The cows doesn’t have a choice not to walk or use a stick you do and that’s the difference!

 

[Spudley]

Unbelievable. There's a chap on YouTube called the hoof GP who has at least one video showing a cow lame on both her back feet that is so sore she should be shot. I suppose he's trying to give the vegans ammunition or something.

I can't watch his videos,they make me feel ill, he's so aggressive in his trimming.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Either sort her feet or cull her.

And FFS don't humanize her, that's what causes welfare to go down the tubes, we see it all the time with clueless pet owners.

People have awareness of life and death, they can help themselves and they have choices in what they do. The cow has none of the above.

If a cow lives one more day or 5 more years, she'll still enjoy today just the same.

I would give each paragraph a like if that were possible. Spot on.

 

[M-J-G]

Same as us all

Not really.
That applies if you have an accident or something unforseen, which brings us back to awareness.

But if people know what they are going to die in a matter of weeks or days they tend not to be in the same frame of mind as they were before they were aware of it.

To put yourself in the cows position re. lameness, stick a handful of rocks in your boots and walk around most of the day, stand while you eat, walk somewhere else to drink etc. and do that for a few years, knowing that you can't take the boots off unless someone else who you cannot speak to considers sorting the problem for you.
I don't like that idea.

 

[Bald Rick]

Out of interest, is this in the U.K.?

 

[Beef farmer]

Out of interest, is this in the U.K.?

Even I can tell its next door to you

 

[Bald Rick]

Even I can tell its next door to you

Thought so but wanted clarification

“Walk the long distances” sort of gave it away

 

[Jamer]

Can't keep chronics under the terms of milk supply agreement and frankly that's the way it should be.