Hanging a gate from a wall

[pear]

Whats the best way to hang a gate (10ft field gate) off a brick wall?

I've got a gap between some old buildings that cattle have to walk through, and I want to divert them with a gate. I cant put a post in as there is a drain underneath (where the post would go).

Is it best to put a flat bar with hinges in the wall and have threaded bar through the wall, or can you get decent fixings to go into brick to put hangers on?

 

[Nearly]

Through the wall, at least with a couple of the fixings per hook.

 

[livestock 1]

Whats the best way to hang a gate (10ft field gate) off a brick wall?

I've got a gap between some old buildings that cattle have to walk through, and I want to divert them with a gate. I cant put a post in as there is a drain underneath (where the post would go).

Is it best to put a flat bar with hinges in the wall and have threaded bar through the wall, or can you get decent fixings to go into brick to put hangers on?

I’ve been using some bolts this year to fasten feed barrier into concrete posts, just drill the posts and thread them in. They might thread into brick with some brackets with the four holes in them? Or will the brick be too soft?

 

[Courier]

Drill through the wall and put a steel strap at the back between both holes to reduce any possibility of pulling the wall over .

 

[Muddyroads]

Thunderbolts work well in concrete but could split bricks unless they’re very solid. As said, a plate with bolts or threaded bar right through would be best.

 

[steveR]

I have used gate hooks with the fixed threaded steel bar (for wooden gate posts) with a steel support strap on the back.

Into concrete with bolt on gate hook plates, I drill 2-4 holes for each hook, then fix with resin. I also put a squirt of resin in the steel bar fitting, to keep it all stable and stop twisting.

 

[Tim G]

You want what is called a hook to plate fitting.

 

[Exfarmer]

just. be careful with an old brick wall a big plate on the back is certainly advisable

 

[steveR]

just. be careful with an old brick wall a big plate on the back is certainly advisable

I used a single 6" wide 5' long piece of 4mm steel as the back plate, on one job, Probably the strongest bit of the wall now!

 

[Paddington]

I used a couple of 19mm threaded gate hinges through a concrete wall, the top one facing down on our pig sty. Spreader plates on the bag, the gate and hinges need to be mounted as one unit.

 

[JP1]

Whats the best way to hang a gate (10ft field gate) off a brick wall?

I've got a gap between some old buildings that cattle have to walk through, and I want to divert them with a gate. I cant put a post in as there is a drain underneath (where the post would go).

Is it best to put a flat bar with hinges in the wall and have threaded bar through the wall, or can you get decent fixings to go into brick to put hangers on?

We do it all the time, use a flat plate with threaded rod and make sure you put threaded bar above and below the top lug and one below the bottom lug

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

Can you put a post on the wrong side of the wall to help take the weight of the gate? Not seen the wall but I'd be concerned about cracking it. Definitely use full length plates on both sides to spread the load

 

[Alchad]

You want what is called a hook to plate fitting.

That’s what I used in a similar application - see photos. Think I used 6 or 8 mm rawl bolts ( obviously decided only 2 needed), although could probably use rawl screws and blue rawl plugs? If you’re worried about the brickwork you could use say a piece of 4x2 rawl bolted to the brickwork first which allows some flexibility in locating the bolts in the middle of the brick.

Alchad

 

[pear]

Thanks for all your replies.

I'll go down the flat bar route either side (I've got some here), its old red brick so it will want some support, but as said its only a smallish light gate.

 

[startinghandle]

Can't really add anything as it's all been said

 

[startinghandle]

I have been thinking... which I do sometimes when faced with similar situation as you do sometimes to find better alternative ...how deep is drain and how high is wall?
I would consider putting in a cranked post to miss drain

 

[pear]

I have been thinking... which I do sometimes when faced with similar situation as you do sometimes to find better alternative ...how deep is drain and how high is wall?
I would consider putting in a cranked post to miss drain

I'll have to check on both wall height and drain depth. When i said wall, its the outside wall of an old brick building (c. 150 yr old). I think its about 2m high.

I have found a 450mm hook to bolt that should go through the wall. I had a measure and I think its about 300mm thick. I'll try and find another bolt and cut some flat bar and do it like that.

 

[Tim G]

You have to admire someone who comes on here asking the best way to do a job, and then proceeds to do it the worst way......

 

[pear]

You have to admire someone who comes on here asking the best way to do a job, and then proceeds to do it the worst way......

I was going to use the bolts instead of threaded bar, but with flat bar on both sides. Save welding some hinges on. I thought that is what was recommended?

 

[Tim G]

Don't use a hook to bolt, they will wear the brickwork, work loose and turn. One on the bottom hinge will just push into the hole with the weight of the gate on it.