hey up...have nfu council finally realised truth about rt?

[Hanspree]

These ‘reserves’ can be reduced by wage increases bonuses and more people employed as things get over complicated
Then maybe the fees go up which speeds the cycle up and adds to the game played
Have you cottoned on yet?

AHDB????? Look at the mess the ex NFU president Peter Kendall left that in.

 

[warksfarmer]

He is only doing his job of growing the business. Others are more culpable imv

Morals.

 

[J 1177]

Every single one of those people should be ashamed of themselves. They’ve been secretly selling U.K. agriculture down the toilet for years for their own gravy train benefit. It’s a disgrace and along with minette batters should hold their heads in shame. This is their legacy and what they’ll be remembered for ……… shafting U.K. farmers.

Im sure their big fat paychecks will soften the blow. The utter B.astards

 

[Clive]

If the true money trail was appealing to look at it wouldn’t need to be lost within a warren of holding companies and such like
The other thing is when folks on here are wondering why the NFU hasn’t jumped in to protect its paying members this would appear to be the answer

as is ALWAYS the case …….. follow the money

 

[Clive]

I resigned my NFU membership 9yrs ago

that cheque was the only vote i had and i used it

Why any decent farmer continue ls to support them in the face of so much clear evidence of acting against our best interest/ corruption I have no idea.


to be clear - i appreciate the work of farmers at county level who give time without remuneration to try improve uk ag BUT these guys are not the real NFU. The real NFU is £21 million pa of paid staff, executives and ex supermarket CEO plus a handful of political and non exec career sham farmers who clearly do not listen to or take any notice of the grassroots members or committees ………. this has to change

cancel your membership and tell them why - it’s the only think that will make change

 

[neilo]

It’s probably quite easy for them to keep the ‘excess’ cash where it is they are in charge of fees and wages no of staff and so forth
Exactly the opposite of my and most other people’s situation on here

To be fair, any ‘not for profit’ business should still have some cash in reserve to survive cr*p years. It would be irresponsible for any business to do otherwise imo.

 

[livestock 1]

To be fair, any ‘not for profit’ business should still have some cash in reserve to survive cr*p years. It would be irresponsible for any business to do otherwise imo.

Plus 5 million assets too

 

[livestock 1]

It’s more about their approach to the people that pay them the money wouldn’t be mentioned in normal circumstances

 

[neilo]

I resigned my NFU membership 9yrs ago

that cheque was the only vote i had and i used it

Why any decent farmer continue ls to support them in the face of so much clear evidence of acting against our best interest/ corruption I have no idea.


to be clear - i appreciate the work of farmers at county level who give time without remuneration to try improve uk ag BUT these guys are not the real NFU. The real NFU is £21 million pa of paid staff, executives and ex supermarket CEO plus a handful of political and non exec career sham farmers who clearly do not listen to or take any notice of the grassroots members or committees ………. this has to change

cancel your membership and tell them why - it’s the only think that will make change

I have to admit to knowing some of those salaried staff working for the NFU.
Without those full time staff, who do you think provides the analysis and advice, or does the political lobbying (both in Westminster and Brussels), or runs the offices to provide those back room services?

How is the fledgling BFU going to do any of that necessary work without paying wages to somebody? If it is really to become a meaningful lobbying organisation then it too will have to employ people at some stage.

 

[livestock 1]

I have to admit to knowing some of those salaried staff working for the NFU.
Without those full time staff, who do you think provides the analysis and advice, or does the political lobbying (both in Westminster and Brussels), or runs the offices to provide those back room services?

How is the fledgling BFU going to do any of that necessary work without paying wages to somebody? If it is really to become a meaningful lobbying organisation then it too will have to employ people at some stage.

When was the last time they did any good though?

 

[livestock 1]

And if they do, does the good things outweigh the bad decisions they make?

 

[willyorkshire]

I resigned my NFU membership 9yrs ago

that cheque was the only vote i had and i used it

Why any decent farmer continue ls to support them in the face of so much clear evidence of acting against our best interest/ corruption I have no idea.


to be clear - i appreciate the work of farmers at county level who give time without remuneration to try improve uk ag BUT these guys are not the real NFU. The real NFU is £21 million pa of paid staff, executives and ex supermarket CEO plus a handful of political and non exec career sham farmers who clearly do not listen to or take any notice of the grassroots members or committees ………. this has to change

cancel your membership and tell them why - it’s the only think that will make change

Confirmed by our local NFU council delegate, what TB said in statement didn't match mood of Council. I'll have quit by the end of this week.

 

[roscoe erf]

Lessons will be learned blah blah blah it’s nothing more than appeasement

 

[Goweresque]

Plus 5 million assets too

No it doesn't. Its tangible assets are about £120k, mainly computers and other fixtures and fittings. Intangible assets are about £30k, presumably the value of the RT logos and trademarks.

The £5m figure is gross assets (comprising £3.5m cash in the bank, and £1.5m of people who owe them money), its got £3.7m of liabilities to offset against that (people they owe money to within the next year). Hence why the net value of the company is about £1.4m (£5m minus £3.7m plus £120k of assets).

Please read the accounts, and if you can't, ask someone who can.

 

[livestock 1]

No it doesn't. Its tangible assets are about £120k, mainly computers and other fixtures and fittings. Intangible assets are about £30k, presumably the value of the RT logos and trademarks.

The £5m figure is gross assets (comprising £3.5m cash in the bank, and £1.5m of people who owe them money), its got £3.7m of liabilities to offset against that (people they owe money to within the next year). Hence why the net value of the company is about £1.4m (£5m minus £3.7m plus £120k of assets).

Please read the accounts, and if you can't, ask someone who can.

You got your nose in amongst it all then

 

[livestock 1]

No it doesn't. Its tangible assets are about £120k, mainly computers and other fixtures and fittings. Intangible assets are about £30k, presumably the value of the RT logos and trademarks.

The £5m figure is gross assets (comprising £3.5m cash in the bank, and £1.5m of people who owe them money), its got £3.7m of liabilities to offset against that (people they owe money to within the next year). Hence why the net value of the company is about £1.4m (£5m minus £3.7m plus £120k of assets).

Please read the accounts, and if you can't, ask someone who can.

Have you found the next company yet?

 

[Clive]

I have to admit to knowing some of those salaried staff working for the NFU.
Without those full time staff, who do you think provides the analysis and advice, or does the political lobbying (both in Westminster and Brussels), or runs the offices to provide those back room services?

How is the fledgling BFU going to do any of that necessary work without paying wages to somebody? If it is really to become a meaningful lobbying organisation then it too will have to employ people at some stage.

do you know the CEO ? …….. used to work for a supermarket apparently

how can that EVER be right ?

 

[neilo]

do you know the CEO ? …….. used to work for a supermarket apparently

how can that EVER be right ?

No I don’t, and nor would I be surprised if he has always worked in the food sector. I do know several of those ‘staffers’ that you seem to decry paying wages to, who work on policy and advising.

Is the BFU, when/if they ever get to be a meaningful lobbying body, going to somehow operate without that (paid) infrastructure?

 

[livestock 1]

No I don’t, and nor would I be surprised if he has always worked in the food sector. I do know several of those ‘staffers’ that you seem to decry paying wages to, who work on policy and advising.

Is the BFU, when/if they ever get to be a meaningful lobbying body, going to somehow operate without that (paid) infrastructure?

On what basis of morality are you protecting any of this?

 

[neilo]

On what basis of morality are you protecting any of this?

The fact that the NFU have paid staff?

I would suggest that, without a certain amount of paid infrastructure in place, any organisation is just a talking shop. Members can mouth off all they like on hidden internet forums, but that doesn’t give access to those that make the decisions that matter.
Does any active farmer have the time to do the job that those full time staffers do, alongside running their business? If they do have that time, I’d question whether they are representative of the UK farmers they purport to represent.