Hill Cows

[Hilly]

Well maybe not, but at some point the breeders are going to have to answer the question I asked above about what breed percentage is acceptable, because in all "breeds" DNA analysis is going to play a bigger part than it does currently, with 50K SNP chips becoming more and more commonly used. The breed societies can fight it all they like but there's a lot of money invested in DNA profiles (genetic EBVs) and they are no use if the DNA profile of the "breed" is too variable.

Surley the ebv of an animal is that of that animal, regardless of its breed ? or am i missing something ? 50k snp chips ? no idea what your talking about, just too clarify im a commercial store cattle producer i dont breed anything pedigree or particularly have much interest in that side to be honest.

 

[Cowgirl]

I'm not sure I know as much as I should about it either, but I went on a Genomics course as part of my CPD recently! It is interesting though and definitely will become more important in the future - beef is way behind dairy though still.

 

[joe soapy]

didn't all breeds originate from the same animals go back a bit more [and it is just a bit] and I would think they share ancestry with us, its this old point in time thing again or did the original cattle that were called Herefords just appear by magic one day in Hereford ?

ha, that explains some of my neighbours, some of them have not had enough generations to fully evolve

 

[joe soapy]

I'm not sure I know as much as I should about it either, but I went on a Genomics course as part of my CPD recently! It is interesting though and definitely will become more important in the future - beef is way behind dairy though still.

thats the fault on the numpty that set up BCMS

 

[joe soapy]

read about the Australian guy, at round up time he sat by the gate and shot any cow that came in without a good calf

 

[tinsheet]

read about the Australian guy, at round up time he sat by the gate and shot any cow that came in without a good calf

Feel like doing that with my sheep this year.

 

[CharcoalWally]

ha, that explains some of my neighbours, some of them have not had enough generations to fully evolve

thats the fault on the numpty that set up BCMS

read about the Australian guy, at round up time he sat by the gate and shot any cow that came in without a good calf

Have you had a pleasant afternoon in a cider bar @joe soapy ?

 

[exmoor dave]

Yes my thoughts entirely!
Plus Joe public in the butchers sees an Aberdeen Angus steak
and a Stabilizer steak you know what he's going to go for!.

A Stabiliser going through the ring at cutcombe you sir need to go straight to the naughty step


Been doing jab day of tb test at home today, oh I wish the hereford scheme was as good as the AA.... for the most part the hereford's (the vast majority of our home herd) have by and large been good as gold behaviour wise.

The Angus have been complete prats and there's not even that many of them..... one took a full 5mins to calm down in the crush just so the weigh head could get its weight

 

[tinsheet]

Called spirit dave.
Good luck Monday

 

[joe soapy]

Have you had a pleasant afternoon in a cider bar @joe soapy ?

i wish, got sent off to town for some bolts to replace the ones he broke that hold the drawbar on the truck.
had to pass aldi on the way so had to have a browse, came out with 2 bolt croppers at under £8 each, passed on paying £29 for a set of spanners up to 32mm.
got home and was chewed up for taking so long, then the bolts was half inch short. had a nap this afternoon to recover.

Was out till the early hours testing my new thermal installation on the truck, wow that is some toy.
had a new guy with rifle and he cant shoot for

 

[joe soapy]

A Stabiliser going through the ring at cutcombe you sir need to go straight to the naughty step


Been doing jab day of tb test at home today, oh I wish the hereford scheme was as good as the AA.... for the most part the hereford's (the vast majority of our home herd) have by and large been good as gold behaviour wise.

The Angus have been complete prats and there's not even that many of them..... one took a full 5mins to calm down in the crush just so the weigh head could get its weight

you can recognise that trait in some of the women.
have noticed the lims just want to crash out of where they is, AA will size up the problem and then pick the newest gate to flatten

 

[unlacedgecko]

I'm not sure I know as much as I should about it either, but I went on a Genomics course as part of my CPD recently! It is interesting though and definitely will become more important in the future - beef is way behind dairy though still.

US beef industry is decades ahead in this regard.

 

[unlacedgecko]

Snapped at a customer's today. They're crisscrossing Hereford and Angus to produce organic beef off pasture.

 

[Zero Homes]

Our Ideal Suckler is a Galloway x Saler cow put to the Char or sim Bull. Small light cows,easy calving ,milky on hill pasture + Good Calf to sell...

 

[Poorbuthappy]

A Stabiliser going through the ring at cutcombe you sir need to go straight to the naughty step


Been doing jab day of tb test at home today, oh I wish the hereford scheme was as good as the AA.... for the most part the hereford's (the vast majority of our home herd) have by and large been good as gold behaviour wise.

The Angus have been complete prats and there's not even that many of them..... one took a full 5mins to calm down in the crush just so the weigh head could get its weight

You need some Stabilisers- the Exlanas of the cattle world

 

[Hilly]

I recall hearing of a composite breed once that thrived in the hill & threw great calves...



Pretty sure they were called “Heather Munchers”!!

read about the Australian guy, at round up time he sat by the gate and shot any cow that came in without a good calf

Good idea, im going to start doing that, well not shooot theem but cut them off and slaughter house.

 

[Hilly]

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Snapped at a customer's today. They're crisscrossing Hereford and Angus to produce organic beef off pasture.
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Blackbaldies they called, the heifers make nice cows.

 

[hendrebc]

Very early days but my version of black baldies. The mothers are limo cross angus and these calves are to a hereford bull. The bigger calf is about 5 or6 weeks and the little one was only 2 days old in that picture. Wouldnt call here a hill farm though more an upland farm

 

[pat kcotnit]

We sell nearly all our suckled (mainly limousin, some Angus, odd bb and simmental) calves as stores at 9-12 months of age. From our experience any limousin calf with a white face buyers will discount the price to a degree. One buyers explanation for this was he knew that it would most likely be out of a simmental cross cow or a Hereford cross cow and that the calf would not kill out as well as those out of an Angus or limousin breeding. He had bought them in the past from other sellers as he thought they were a good price for the size/shape/weight of animal, but they just didn't perform/ kill out as well as he thought they should have.
Those people with white faced cows (simmental, hereford, baldies) and selling calves as stores, do you find this? Not knocking the breeds or crosses of cows with white faces, just curious.

 

[Woolless]

Our Ideal Suckler is a Galloway x Saler cow put to the Char or sim Bull. Small light cows,easy calving ,milky on hill pasture + Good Calf to sell...

Galloway x Saler could be a little, ahem, 'spirited'?