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What would be the alternative, assuming there is one ?
6” be more than enough …Two 4 inch drains doesnt sound logical ,,if you get on ok with the nieghbor and theres plenty of fall across your field ,dig one trench and drop a 8inch pipe in ,,that wont block up just from 4 plots .
And has the area EVER flooded?40 houses built 3 years ago back of my place ,,no surface water goes into the existing storm drains ,,they buried 10 huge soak away crates .
No ,they dug down about 15ft ,we sit on a layer of free draining cliff land ,water goes straight through it .And has the area EVER flooded?
A relation who is a QS (Quantity Surveyor/Accountant) once told me that “The building industry thrives on conflict!”I thought farmers were crafty until i had a few dealings with builder/developer types, its no wonder homeowners have problems with sinkage and drainage. If a developer/builder needs your land for drainage or electric supply sting them for tens of thousands and have clauses put into agreements that should you get planning in the future the drains and electric will be moved at their cost. You need to think 50 years ahead before agreeing "favours" that earn them hundreds of thousands and might cost you the same one day.
This sounds like a recipe for trouble. What exactly do they mean by rainwater? Does it include water from the driveway where they're likely to be washing cars?4 houses going up right next to one of my arable fields. House builder has asked if he can have 2 x 4 inch diameter drainage pipes put under my field to an IDB drain on the far side, to take rain water from the 4 new houses. My field is already under-drained, but 2 more drains would be a small plus. Any legal issues? Who would own the 2 new drains? What if they became blocked at some stage into the future? Comments please!
Easy 3 word answer...4 houses going up right next to one of my arable fields. House builder has asked if he can have 2 x 4 inch diameter drainage pipes put under my field to an IDB drain on the far side, to take rain water from the 4 new houses. My field is already under-drained, but 2 more drains would be a small plus. Any legal issues? Who would own the 2 new drains? What if they became blocked at some stage into the future? Comments please!
I was thinking last night, I wonder how well the soakaway tests went for the Builder that the OP refers to??Planning should have had a perculation test for soakaways, look up the planning aproval.
Unless he's very lucky, he's likely to find BT poles aren't high enough to carry electric.I know of a developer local to a friend who has baulked at the cost of getting electric to his new ag tied house(He turned himself into a farmer for two years and also bribed the councils agri advisor with shoot days to aide permission ) he has somehow got bt to erect the ten ish poles he needs claiming some right to a landline and then stopped them putting the phone wires up, hes hoping to commandeer them now for the electric and save thousands.
The lift and shift easements I have seen have obliged the landowner to meet costs of relocation so the problem you refer to does not arise. As with all things who pays is open to negotiation though.Think wires getting crossed here. If the field land owner gets development and needs to move the pipes for this, the house landowners that benefit from the drain would have to pay if a lift and shift is in place.
What bongodog is saying is that the house landowners would look to object to any development even if they didn’t mind as they know that if consent is grantedthey are paying for a new rerouted pipe.
Chances are the new neighbours will object anyway…
The developer could install a soakaway instead of the pipes, future owners would sweep leaves down the drains or carry out no maintenance leaving water to enter the farmers field.Just not worth the hassle, any future problem and you have 4 separate property owners to go after, guarantee that at least two will deny all knowledge and drag things out for months if not years, meanwhile you have a flooded field.
Just sell the field for development value with an agreement to have first refusal on rental for agricultural purposes until such time as the builder develops it.4 houses going up right next to one of my arable fields. House builder has asked if he can have 2 x 4 inch diameter drainage pipes put under my field to an IDB drain on the far side, to take rain water from the 4 new houses. My field is already under-drained, but 2 more drains would be a small plus. Any legal issues? Who would own the 2 new drains? What if they became blocked at some stage into the future? Comments please!
I would be worried about foul water "getting in", personally!Perforated drain to a dyke for a housing development across 3rd party land? Not a normal way to do it. Developer might be a friend, what if the water one day gets contaminated? It's then your ditch, your responsibility, your contamination and could be any one of those 4 house owners to blame. Stay friends and let them do the drainage as per PP.