How’s your OSR looking now

[Flat 10]

Some may remember my question about virgin rape land and crop ill-thrift.
1st pic, 1/2 of field never had osr.
2&3 pics other half of same field, old fence line now removed, had osr in rotation.
Very slightly heavier, bit of good red iron stone type soil.
Both scratched in with KV TS drill 10.08.19.
3.5kg ha C2 Campus.
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Top of field always been backward and consequently hammered by flying rats, bottom half hardly touched.
More to this than just csfb, imo.

Very interesting

 

[teslacoils]

Just jumping in here to let people know I am looking for folks to trial a new tool developed by FERA that is hoping to improve your OSR performance through better spray management.

details can be found here:
https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/free-cropmonitor-pro-licence.314499/

Osr for most is a dead duck. They'd be better off forgetting the breeders' shilling and looking to make other half decent break crops don't go the same way.

Hearing @Clive s crop has largely gone down the shitter irrespective of input costs it's still not a position any of us want to be in to lay out any time or work on something that can go from half decent to write-off in a short time.

I'll miss the early harvest and, occasionally, the big cheque but not the 10 months of the year hoping it avoided

Slugs
Beetles
Pigeons
More beetles
Weevils making holes for beetles
Hail
Random euricic acid claims.

 

[Daniel Larn]

Osr for most is a dead duck. They'd be better off forgetting the breeders' shilling and looking to make other half decent break crops don't go the same way.

Hearing @Clive s crop has largely gone down the shitter irrespective of input costs it's still not a position any of us want to be in to lay out any time or work on something that can go from half decent to write-off in a short time.

I'll miss the early harvest and, occasionally, the big cheque but not the 10 months of the year hoping it avoided

Slugs
Beetles
Pigeons
More beetles
Weevils making holes for beetles
Hail
Random euricic acid claims.

I can't confess to having much experience in this area. Just looking for people to take a look at this new tool and see if they think it's useable/useful. Would you like to take a look and give them your thoughts?

 

[Daniel Larn]

Not wishing to be excessively negative, but its fate is pretty much sealed the day it is drilled without an effective insecticide dressing

You can be as negative as you like, it isn't my baby. Would you like to take a look at the tool anyway and give them your thoughts on it?

 

[teslacoils]

You can be as negative as you like, it isn't my baby. Would you like to take a look at the tool anyway and give them your thoughts on it?

I can see the potential benefits, but now I grow no osr, and such a small area of wheat it would be better for a larger farmer to evaluate. I've returned to a ley/lime/mole, muck and plough school of farming.

 

[Shutesy]

Mine is going backwards faster than an Italian tank division

I know its to do with a crop struggling to survive but that is a brilliant analogy, made me smile ?

 

[Daniel Larn]

I can see the potential benefits, but now I grow no osr, and such a small area of wheat it would be better for a larger farmer to evaluate. I've returned to a ley/lime/mole, muck and plough school of farming.

They are quite short of farmers to feedback, and like I say, it's more about the useability of the app more so than the results. sure you wouldn't like to take a look?

 

[Green oak]

Mild winters are the problem also. Pests survive. The best rape I personally have grown not father. Was 13. The last year of nio nics. But if I’m let to believe the previous winter it got down to -14 in the south east. These are the same fields. 7 year rotation. Average was 1.8t/a

 

[Northdowns Martin]

I’m told there’s been an explosion of pod midge this week!

 

[richard hammond]

Osr for most is a dead duck. They'd be better off forgetting the breeders' shilling and looking to make other half decent break crops don't go the same way.

Hearing @Clive s crop has largely gone down the shitter irrespective of input costs it's still not a position any of us want to be in to lay out any time or work on something that can go from half decent to write-off in a short time.

I'll miss the early harvest and, occasionally, the big cheque but not the 10 months of the year hoping it avoided

Slugs
Beetles
Pigeons
More beetles
Weevils making holes for beetles
Hail
Random euricic acid claims.

The crop is knackered from day one due to all of the above, I have also many farmers who sacked the crop 2 years ago who are just so much happier with their lot, it is not only a drain on finances it is also a drain on your sanity!!

 

[Daniel Larn]

I’m told there’s been an explosion of pod midge this week!

Crop Monitor Pro could tell you!

 

[teslacoils]

They are quite short of farmers to feedback, and like I say, it's more about the useability of the app more so than the results. sure you wouldn't like to take a look?

Ok, I'll have a look after the weekend.

 

[Daniel Larn]

Ok, I'll have a look after the weekend.

Thanks, I would really appreciate it. Hoping that by helping them out getting folk for this trial, they might be inclined to come back to me for future projects.

 

[Green oak]

Anyone taken the. Quote on I’ll take half the risk by there seed merchants. Oh that was by the end of November cut off. If I remember rightly. Mine was farm saved. Payed royalties by the hectare. But I’m not growing linseed. Need a combine. I’ve been told some bad stories about linseed and lexions. Normally ends up in smoke or the driver on a rope.

 

[principal skinner]

Anyone taken the. Quote on I’ll take half the risk by there seed merchants. Oh that was by the end of November cut off. If I remember rightly. Mine was farm saved. Payed royalties by the hectare. But I’m not growing linseed. Need a combine. I’ve been told some bad stories about linseed and lexions. Normally ends up in smoke or the driver on a rope.

Cut hundreds of acres of linseed with a lexion

 

[Green oak]

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[ollie989898]

It is a shame that we will see the back of OSR now, but if there is no defence against the beetle what is the point. Might as well drill a cover crop, let it grow all winter and put sheep on it ready for spring barley or something in the spring.

I hope the bee keepers are happy with the loss of neonics because no more yellow OSR fields for them to put their bees in.

 

[David.]

Then they, or their organisation should not have lobbied so hard against neonics. I'm not sure that there is to this day any credible evidence that when used as an autumn seed dressing, there is harm to bees in the subsequent flowering crop.

 

[Chalky]

Ex DEFRA bee unit chap is on here & local to us. Says he had no issue with neonics., Most vocal 'farmers are killing them' brigade were more than likely the middle-class hobby keeper who's bees died through mis-management or winter starvation through lack of their knowledge. But rather than take responsibility themselves-obviously blame someone else-and who else is there to blame!

 

[nick...]

Had around 35 acres and pulled up some a few weeks ago and a bit more yesterday.be lucky if there is 10 acres left.shoukd have ripped the lot up months ago but keep being told it will improve but it continues to go down hill.will get some mustard spread on bare ground in a few weeks
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