How’s your OSR looking now

[Clive]

Certainly a difficult year but walked out late (September) drilled block today that has had me concerned all autumn and was pleasantly surprised

no inputs at all so far apart from the farm saved seed and 50kgs DAP at drilling

Going to be a battle keeping pigeons off all winter but frankly I didn’t expect it to get this far

I’m going to walk some of the more forward stuff tomorrow so will post some pictures of that - the difference just 10 days establishment date has made this year is remarkable

 

[nick...]

Most of mine looks well but pigeons have started hammering it.flea beetles had a bit,infact 8 acres that I measured last week.may rip up some in spring as the bit the beetles have had is down one side.its had a herbicide and a pesticide and 30kg of nitrogen so far.last year for it hear.gas gun not yet been damaged but only a matter of time.
Nick...

 

[Hindsight]

Certainly a difficult year but walked out late (September) drilled block today that has had me concerned all autumn and was pleasantly surprised

no inputs at all so far apart from the farm saved seed and 50kgs DAP at drilling

Going to be a battle keeping pigeons off all winter but frankly I didn’t expect it to get this far

I’m going to walk some of the more forward stuff tomorrow so will post some pictures of that - the difference just 10 days establishment date has made this year is remarkable

No gylphosate? No volunteers present? If so then top marks to combine operator.

 

[R J]

Drilled mid August

 

[Clive]

No gylphosate? No volunteers present? If so then top marks to combine operator.

no glyphosate used pre or post harvest on this block as it was turned straight around drilled tight behind balers as straw was removed - there are areas with more volunteers and grassweeds though that normally would have been sprayed by now that need sorting out ASAP

 

[teslacoils]

If you think the wheat situation round here is bad, the osr is awful. Yesterday I drove past one early drilled block that looked ace, and a similar sized one that is ok. But that's a tiny fraction of the drilled area. Large blocks that have been abandoned.

 

[chaffcutter]

@R J That looks great, beetles not got across to you yet?

 

[R J]

@R J That looks great, beetles not got across to you yet?

They were about , but with layer manure it managed to grow away from them.

 

[chaffcutter]

Ah, rocket fuel then! I wish we could get hold of some here, but the only decent size poultry unit locally has a customer who takes the lot.

 

[R J]

Ah, rocket fuel then! I wish we could get hold of some here, but the only decent size poultry unit locally has a customer who takes the lot.

It is good stuff , you can see exactly where the spreader has been !

 

[Brisel]

Mine looks ok. Some is fine, some is just hanging on with 4 small beetle munched true leaves. A hard winter without snow cover will finish it. The difference between the best & worst is the month of drilling. August = viable. September = dodgy. I thought I'd missed the main flea beetle migration by drilling a bit later based on 2018's infestation. Anything sown before bank holiday Monday in 2018 was eaten. This year, the main migration started bank holiday weekend and went on until well into September. Fields with sewage cake applied had no less damage, in fact 2 out of 3 fields spread with it have been written off.

So far, unlike 2018, there aren't many larvae in the stems or leaf petioles so there's hope for what survives with winter around here.

@Laggard has the best crop I've seen in TFF so far.

 

[snipe]

Mine looks good, a bit too thick if anything. Just been looking at it today and a bit concerned as finding big patches like this and finding caterpillars. They seem to be chiselling about an inch out of the bottom of the stem, lots of bits on the floor. Anyone else seen this before.

 

[Matt77]

Mine looks good, a bit too thick if anything. Just been looking at it today and a bit concerned as finding big patches like this and finding caterpillars. They seem to be chiselling about an inch out of the bottom of the stem, lots of bits on the floor. Anyone else seen this before.

Apart from my clearfield, all of mine is very forward, I know where I’m walking the dog tomorrow now! Is it just the biggest plants that have been attacked

 

[Matt77]

Apart from my clearfield, all of mine is very forward, I know where I’m walking the dog tomorrow now! Is it just the biggest plants that have been attacked

This was my Elgar last month, don’t think the pigeons will bother it!!

 

[Cab-over Pete]

It is good stuff , you can see exactly where the spreader has been !

I think it’s something about chickens that beetles don’t like.

I often spread Fibrophos, incinerated poultry manure, on standing crops and farmers often comment they’ve had no beetle trouble.

After all, when did you last find a flea beetle in your egg sandwich? Eh?

 

[Serup]

I send my bags back this year. Too wet to make the seedbed i wanted in a timely manner.
I have learnt to leave it in the bag if it can't get a good start.
I don't know anyone who don't grow hybrids here, so establishment is costly just in seed.
Non-hybrids start too slow to be recommended.

 

[Clive]

I think it’s something about chickens that beetles don’t like.

I often spread Fibrophos, incinerated poultry manure, on standing crops and farmers often comment they’ve had no beetle trouble.

After all, when did you last find a flea beetle in your egg sandwich? Eh?

interesting this as chicken muck is high calcium isn’t it ? I wonder if there is any connection to what I’ve seen re CSFB abd the drill placed calcifert here this year ?

could be good news for lime contractors !!!

 

[JCfarmer]

interesting this as chicken muck is high calcium isn’t it ? I wonder if there is any connection to what I’ve seen re CSFB abd the drill placed calcifert here this year ?

could be good news for lime contractors !!!

Clive are you saying calcifert has had a positive effect regerding CSFB??

 

[Cab-over Pete]

interesting this as chicken muck is high calcium isn’t it ? I wonder if there is any connection to what I’ve seen re CSFB abd the drill placed calcifert here this year ?

could be good news for lime contractors !!!

It would be very nice to have some good news!!!

It’s hardly ground breaking though. We’ve been putting lime on standing osr for over 25 years.

 

[Renaultman]

interesting this as chicken muck is high calcium isn’t it ? I wonder if there is any connection to what I’ve seen re CSFB abd the drill placed calcifert here this year ?

could be good news for lime contractors !!!

We used gypsum and Calfos on ours, don't think it has helped, even chicken muck on one hasn't got away. On the whole my own hybrid stuff should just be ok but the jury is out on the contract hear rape with one field almost certain to be written off and the others in the balance.
If we can get 1/2 a tonne to the acre they will stay imo not even going to get KERB till the very last opportunity