How effective is weed wiping grassland ?

[Pilatus]

How effective is weed wiping to control docks,nettles and especially thistles(all types) in grassland?
Which chemicals are most effective? Thankyou for any info

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Think you can only use roundup ,not sure about the others
Fantastic on Rushes .

Thistles and Docks . Will they get far enough ahead of the grass before they get to old
Quad sprayer and Grazon Pro I find best for Nettles

 

[Devil's advocate]

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Looks fun.

The idea of killing weed grasses after hard grazing with sheep appeals to me.

 

[Pistonbroke]

Have used pastor through ours and been fairly good results but the mix rate was a bit random ( cue all the " it's not licensed " posts ). Roundup mix is about 1:25

 

[Tarw Coch]

Have used pastor through ours and been fairly good results but the mix rate was a bit random ( cue all the " it's not licensed " posts ). Roundup mix is about 1:25

It’s one of them anomalies, it’s not legal cos it’s not licensed for that use yet the reality is you will use less chemical so will be better for the environment and will kill the target species just the same.
It will be better for your pocket too with less chemical used, it’s difficult to see what harm it could do.....................................................................other than to the sales/bank balances of the company’s that make the chemical, which is probably why it’s not licensed for such use.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

If I wasn't organic, I would weed wipe the thistles and rushes, very cheap to do with a weed wiper, just takes a while. I would be inclined to use something like Grazon, plus a bit of washing up liquid as a wetting agent at about 25:1, or roundup. I agree with Tarw Coch above.

 

[Pistonbroke]

It’s one of them anomalies, it’s not legal cos it’s not licensed for that use yet the reality is you will use less chemical so will be better for the environment and will kill the target species just the same.
It will be better for your pocket too with less chemical used, it’s difficult to see what harm it could do.....................................................................other than to the sales/bank balances of the company’s that make the chemical, which is probably why it’s not licensed for such use.

The bloke we get any spray from has always said to put washing up liquid in with roundup but people get their nuts in a twist over the licencing of that as well.

 

[neilo]

The bloke we get any spray from has always said to put washing up liquid in with roundup but people get their nuts in a twist over the licencing of that as well.

Why washing up liquid?

I always use a water conditioner with glyphosate through a sprayer, and probably would through a wiper. It certainly speeds up it’s action, as well as making it rain fast sooner.

 

[neilo]

Have used pastor through ours and been fairly good results but the mix rate was a bit random ( cue all the " it's not licensed " posts ). Roundup mix is about 1:25

I was told Thistlex works very effectively too (assuming it’s just thistles), but again, you’d have to use it at night.?

 

[Pistonbroke]

Why washing up liquid?

I always use a water conditioner with glyphosate through a sprayer, and probably would through a wiper. It certainly speeds up it’s action, as well as making it rain fast sooner.

Just breaks the surface tension so it wets it and froths so more visible to see how much you're putting on. More importantly cheap Aldi fairy liquid is only 50p?

 

[pgk]

Have used glyphosate in worst areas and saw someone using our logic with grazon pro, thistlex and pastor at various times, important to hit them at time chemical manufacturer recommends.

 

[Pistonbroke]

Why washing up liquid?

I always use a water conditioner with glyphosate through a sprayer, and probably would through a wiper. It certainly speeds up it’s action, as well as making it rain fast sooner.

Just breaks the surface tension so it wets it and froths so more visible to see how much you're putting on. More importantly cheap Aldi fairy liquid is only 50p?

Have used glyphosate in worst areas and saw someone using our logic with grazon pro, thistles and pastor at various times, important to hit them at time chemical manufacturer recommends.

A lot of steep ground here and roundup can run off the roller on the headlands

 

[Nithsdale]

Why washing up liquid?

I always use a water conditioner with glyphosate through a sprayer, and probably would through a wiper. It certainly speeds up it’s action, as well as making it rain fast sooner.

The bubbles give you an idea how much is on the roller/carpet /brush so you don't overload it... they also transfer to the weeds to give you a rough idea where you've already wiped

Just use the cheapest stuff you can get.

To the OP, we've used a weedwiper loads from nettles and thistles through to bracken on the hill. I just put glypho through it, works perfect

 

[ShooTa]

your better off getting some humates or vermicasts sprayed on as those plants your trying to hit love high bacteria and nitrogen rich soils.

 

[hillman]

your better off getting some humates or vermicasts sprayed on as those plants your trying to hit love high bacteria and nitrogen rich soils.

expand thoughts ? further?

 

[ShooTa]

worm compost made with a high fungal ratio - then mixed with water a bit like slurry and aplicated.
got most of it from this lady - watched a ton of seminars to do with soil health and it keeps croping up.

 

[Devil's advocate]

your better off getting some humates or vermicasts sprayed on as those plants your trying to hit love high bacteria and nitrogen rich soils.

Have you been out in the hot sun, without a hat?