How long should a machine last

Speedstar

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Location
Scottish Borders
I was talking with a guy today & he was telling of a problem he has with a new machine,He bought a new machine in 2015 , full dealer service history record to date on it & it is now needing a complete new engine & has only done 2500 hours, the machine is out of warranty now & the manufacturer as no interest in his problem at all & will not lift a finger to help him & he is going to have to fork out for a complete new engine, he asked me if i knew at what point is the machine not fit for the purpose it was bought to do & what design live a modern day machine should have , he is not a forum member so i said i would ask for it , i must say i was very surprised to be told this manufacturer had no interest in his problem at all.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
It's the five year old bit that's the problem, it could have had thousands of cold starts and only run 5 minutes at time. Was it serviced correctly with the right oils? Can the manufacturer download info to see how it's been run?
You need the full picture and both sides of the story to judge.

But an engine can fail at any time, if its out of warranty its out.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Got 10,000 hours out of 1980's classics easily. ( And I don't mean a Triggers broom like the Classic tractor Leyland which has done 60,000 hours, but every major component has been replaced 3 times :ROFLMAO: )
A modern £100k tractor should do 20,000 hours with no major issues ?
Otherwise, WTF ?

Just reading in Farm Machinery Journal about a 2012 JD 6170R that has clocked 21,000 hours so far. Not touched the engine or IVT (y)

I think you've done well to get 10,000 trouble free out of a 1980's tractor🏆
 

ACEngineering

Member
Location
Oxon
Who made the engine, I believe Manitou bought engines without warranty about 15 years ago, and my builder with less than 1000 hours on it had a big bill to pay

Rubbish, 15 years ago it was mostly all perkins engines and likely the 1100 series engines, they all had manitous standard 12 month warranty or additional if you paid for it as an option.

BUT if you went direct to Perkins all them 1100 series engines no matter what they were fitted in had 2 years warranty with perkins, you just filled in a form with engine details machine it was fitted too, date and hours recorded etc and perkins sent someone out to fix it.
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Got 10,000 hours out of 1980's classics easily. ( And I don't mean a Triggers broom like the Classic tractor Leyland which has done 60,000 hours, but every major component has been replaced 3 times :ROFLMAO: )
A modern £100k tractor should do 20,000 hours with no major issues ?
Otherwise, WTF ?
"should do" are dangerous words in the countryside.

But I do agree, 100%

When you consider we used to give cars valve-grinds etc and rebuild them at about ¼ the life expectancy of your average car now, what's with that?
Pleased to say my old crappy Italian tub is about 8450 hours now and only really been leaky pipes etc to fix (due to the designers having drinks that weekend) it's been a good one.

Likewise the old plough tractor, MF8260, 26200 hours and still going. Masseys are definitely crap 🤦‍♂️
 

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

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On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

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