How long should a machine last

[daveydiesel1]

All I can say is this is a major player in the farm machinery market on a global scale

Must be an agco, cnh,jcb.jd or sdf product?

 

[Dave W]

This thread is like click bait.
I've got some scandalous news but I'm not going to to tell you what it is not offer anything to back it up. But it's really serious. Honest

 

[Andrew]

All I can say is this is a major player in the farm machinery market on a global scale

Makes no difference if they’re a major worldwide player or making one offs in a garden shed. Sh** happens, if it’s out of warranty it’s out of warranty.
More important is the customer’s attitude and loyalty. For example, if they have been on here slagging the machine off for the last 2 years I wouldn’t expect any help. But if they have been praising it then you would hope the manufacturer would help.

This is a product from a major worldwide player in the farm machinery business, but 2500hrs would be a very decent life span in my opinion.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Makes no difference if they’re a major worldwide player or making one offs in a garden shed. Sh** happens, if it’s out of warranty it’s out of warranty.
More important is the customer’s attitude and loyalty. For example, if they have been on here slagging the machine off for the last 2 years I wouldn’t expect any help. But if they have been praising it then you would hope the manufacturer would help.

This is a product from a major worldwide player in the farm machinery business, but 2500hrs would be a very decent life span in my opinion.

But why should it only do 2500 hours? Itl cost plenty to buy

 

[Andrew]

But why should it only do 2500 hours? Itl cost plenty to buy

An average lawnmower would maybe do 100hrs a year, so 25 years would be 2500hrs, very reasonable I’d have said. Most manufacturers would want people to change well before that otherwise no more will be sold.

If it was a machine like that, brought for domestic use and being used for commercial (ie 500hrs a year) then you would expect it to fail.
This is all hypothetical of course, it could be a garden strimmer or a quadtrack or anything in between

 

[Hilly]

Makes no difference if they’re a major worldwide player or making one offs in a garden shed. Sh** happens, if it’s out of warranty it’s out of warranty.
More important is the customer’s attitude and loyalty. For example, if they have been on here slagging the machine off for the last 2 years I wouldn’t expect any help. But if they have been praising it then you would hope the manufacturer would help.

This is a product from a major worldwide player in the farm machinery business, but 2500hrs would be a very decent life span in my opinion.

I’ve a older model to that , it bloody better do 2500 hrs .

 

[Lakesdigger]

Warranty is 12 months anything after that is usually an insurance policy (may still be manufacturer backed) and often not the same level of cover. The theory is that any manufacturing defect will show up in the first 12 months use and if nothing shows up in this time period machine should do many hours/years after. Its one of the reasons you want to give new machines a good workload in the first 12 months imho. Outside of this you're on you're own unfortunately but between dealer and manufacturer you might get some assistance depending upon several factors, their own goodwill, how much machinery do you buy off them, as said already how respected are you by them etc.

 

[ACEngineering]

Because Perkins supplied them cheaper on the basis they would not have any warranty claims or come backs, manitou took on the risk, this is what the dealer told them anyway, makes sense to me as a reasonable commercial decision to take.

They had warranty. Dealer is telling tales.

 

[livestock 1]

This thread is like click bait.
I've got some scandalous news but I'm not going to to tell you what it is not offer anything to back it up. But it's really serious. Honest

Like Eastenders greatest dufduffs

 

[M-J-G]

I think you've done well to get 10,000 trouble free out of a 1980's tractor

especially if it's Blue

 

[kiwi pom]

But why should it only do 2500 hours? Itl cost plenty to buy

We have no idea what the machine is, what the problem is, how its been operated, or the relationship between the owner, the dealer and the manufacturer.
We do know the warranty is out and the machine is 5 years old, that would have me side with the manufacturer but it's hard to know with limited information.

 

[Spud]

Generally speaking, the larger the machine, the greater the expected lifespan.
A little 12hp lawnmower tractor will be all but Bob bucked at 2500hrs, but a 20t quarry shovel will still have life left in it at ten times that.

This thread is getting like the 'was I daft buying a combine unseen, because it's a pile of poo' thread, and frankly, given Speedstar's reputation for slating manufacturers, we ought not to be surprised.

If it's out of warranty, get it fixed and pay up, or sell the bloody thing, life is too short for anything else.

Be on wit job man!

 

[Bernardbean]

Just tell us what the machine is . Please

 

[Dave W]

Just tell us what the machine is . Please

I'm going bet it's a thinly veiled dig at a tractor brand beginning with V

 

[daveydiesel1]

I'm going bet it's a thinly veiled dig at a tractor brand beginning with V

If it is its bound to be 1 of the higher hp 4pots as iv heard that the 6718 massey can give engine trouble if worked too hard

 

[Dave W]

I'm going bet it's a thinly veiled dig at a tractor brand beginning with V

If it is its bound to be 1 of the higher hp 4pots as iv heard that the 6718 massey can give engine trouble if worked too hard

He's messaged me privately to say it's not a valtra mf fendit out Deere. But wouldn't say more

 

[Wellytrack]

Probably a Krone or Class.

Not that I care tbh.

 

[Wellytrack]

"should do" are dangerous words in the countryside.

But I do agree, 100%

When you consider we used to give cars valve-grinds etc and rebuild them at about ¼ the life expectancy of your average car now, what's with that?
Pleased to say my old crappy Italian tub is about 8450 hours now and only really been leaky pipes etc to fix (due to the designers having drinks that weekend) it's been a good one.

Likewise the old plough tractor, MF8260, 26200 hours and still going. Masseys are definitely crap

Yes Massey are painted red so the kids can find them on the lawn easily.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Yes Massey are painted red so the kids can find them on the lawn easily.

Deere are yellow on the inside, in case life hasn't given you enough lemons

 

[Frankzy]

Ask anyone in the forestry business and we'd say that anything under 20.000 hours on it is still being run in...