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HSE to clamp down on farms this 2019

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Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
The farm, because footpaths exist to allow labourers to walk to work. Its why so many footpaths end up going through farm yards, thats where people who lived in the countryside worked.
But that was 300 years ago. Use seems to have changed from functional to recreational. There wasn't the danger of modern machinery back then, and folks had more respect & common sense.
To use a much over used phrase, these paths aren't fit for purpose.
 

thesilentone

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Perhaps there should be a high, medium and low risk category for humans, as there is no doubt some are more accident prone than others.

So, farms could be categorized as say a red risk area and any human in the x,y.z ?? category of risk is not allowed to enter, and if they do, they do at there own risk. Or signs that state we only allow a,e and g ?? category humans on our site.

Having idiot proof H&S rules is not sustainable, and will be unaffordable if we carry on the way we are going.

Reproduce the Country Code with some authority and legal clout, anyone roaming must have a Country Safety Test at a cost of £100.00 before doing so, if not they have zero redress.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
The farm, because footpaths exist to allow labourers to walk to work. Its why so many footpaths end up going through farm yards, thats where people who lived in the countryside worked.
Agreed on the farm, but the farmyard has probably expanded around the footpath rather than to one side of it? I am right next to a main thoroughfare, but would never think to build on both sides of it.

Not saying what’s right or wrong, but developing a yard to envelope a pedestrian route is obviously less sensible than developing one next to it. One to consider for anyone expanding an existing facility, perhaps.
 

Wombat

Member
BASIS
Location
East yorks
Agreed on the farm, but the farmyard has probably expanded around the footpath rather than to one side of it? I am right next to a main thoroughfare, but would never think to build on both sides of it.

Not saying what’s right or wrong, but developing a yard to envelope a pedestrian route is obviously less sensible than developing one next to it. One to consider for anyone expanding an existing facility, perhaps.

It may well have been the yard was expanded 50yrs ago when the footpath saw 1 person a year not the recreational use it gets now. Housing estates/factories etc seem to get them moved but when it goes through a farm it’s impossible.
 

Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
Agreed on the farm, but the farmyard has probably expanded around the footpath rather than to one side of it? I am right next to a main thoroughfare, but would never think to build on both sides of it.

Not saying what’s right or wrong, but developing a yard to envelope a pedestrian route is obviously less sensible than developing one next to it. One to consider for anyone expanding an existing facility, perhaps.

The whole planning permission system and codified network of footpaths has largely only existed post WW2, since the Town and Country Planning Act of 1947 and the National Parks and Access to the Countryside Act of 1949. Prior to that it was a bit of a free for all. So back in Victorian times and earlier, when many farmsteads were first developed, the idea of 'building next to or on a footpath' just didn't exist, as a footpath didn't have a statutory legal definition, and there was no planning system either.
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
It may well have been the yard was expanded 50yrs ago when the footpath saw 1 person a year not the recreational use it gets now. Housing estates/factories etc seem to get them moved but when it goes through a farm it’s impossible.

Sounds like a good reason to sell the farm yard for development and build a greenfield yard away from public access.


I wish.
 

DRC

Member
Which was there first?
Good question. There was a cottage on site, then my landlords put a building up in the 70s, before new landlords moved us lock stock and barrel out of the village in the early 90s onto the site. No one bothered with the path until more and more new houses were built and a retired civil servant, made it her life’s work to make sure all the paths are open .
 

DRC

Member
Thankfully it’s not a circular route, but stops at the top of a track ( where another old house used to be, and obviously the reason for said path), which walkers don’t like being told that they have to return the way they came.
There’s plenty of other paths on the farm as well.
 

B'o'B

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
Had our visit today, very reasonable chap, noticed all my signs and a couple of new pto guards, seemed to show we’d made an effort, he mentioned welding fumes, no problem if weld outside, other than that, went away a happy chap!
Well done. I bet that’s a weight off your mind!
 
Had our visit today, very reasonable chap, noticed all my signs and a couple of new pto guards, seemed to show we’d made an effort, he mentioned welding fumes, no problem if weld outside, other than that, went away a happy chap!

Oh ffs. Yes welding fumes obviously presenting the incredible risk to yourself given how much welding you do compared to 10 blokes in a sealed factory all welding for 9 hours a day constantly for 48 weeks a year. I suppose he expects a fully equipped fume extractor rig for your open fronted shed and the 20 hours of welding you might do a year?

These folk must be nuts.
 

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