Hybrid rye

[som farmer]

any views on how late we can put it in ? we have 8 acres ploughed, but not worked, the rest is in.

 

[Al R]

any views on how late we can put it in ? we have 8 acres ploughed, but not worked, the rest is in.

Better in the ground than the bag, I’m not sure if it needs vernalisation like WW but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t as I know Triticale defiantly doesn’t (or didn’t) have winter/spring varieties and Triticale is the cross of Rye and Wheat.

 

[som farmer]

Better in the ground than the bag, I’m not sure if it needs vernalisation like WW but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t as I know Triticale defiantly doesn’t (or didn’t) have winter/spring varieties and Triticale is the cross of Rye and Wheat.

practical experience is best, agromonist, is saying mid oct, my view get it done! but, if it was wheat or barley, I know, rye is new to us.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

I've got 25ac sprayed out which is a real pain but my rye will be staying in the bag now.

 

[Al R]

practical experience is best, agromonist, is saying mid oct, my view get it done! but, if it was wheat or barley, I know, rye is new to us.

I’ve sown rye in September, October, feb and March, triticale from July-June.

 

[Frodo2]

I’ve sown rye in September, October, feb and March, triticale from July-June.

And how did the results compare?

 

[som farmer]

I’ve sown rye in September, October, feb and March, triticale from July-June.

they tell me the hybred, is different to normal, it's a newish crop to us, and we will be relying on it for the bulk of our silage, this year yielded close to 20 ton/ac, and a good crop of maize after it, just don't want to bolls it up !!

 

[Al R]

they tell me the hybred, is different to normal, it's a newish crop to us, and we will be relying on it for the bulk of our silage, this year yielded close to 20 ton/ac, and a good crop of maize after it, just don't want to bolls it up !!

They tell you hybrid won’t grow again, I combined 8 acre of it instead of wholecropping, yielded 3.3t/AC adjusted and 2.5t/acre straw, planted it back in the ground and it yielded 15t/acre as WC, the year before yielded 17t/AC with fresh seed. The 15t/ac year nothing yielded near as high as that due to a tough year.

 

[Al R]

And how did the results compare?

Not much difference in yield if any it’s just different timings for cutting which didn’t matter much as some went under second cut silage and the later sown under third cut.
Being able to grow triticale all year was a huge bonus, matching it in with a cut of silage, cover the ground in slurry and then replant and harvest 3 months later alongside another cut of grass.

 

[som farmer]

Not much difference in yield if any it’s just different timings for cutting which didn’t matter much as some went under second cut silage and the later sown under third cut.
Being able to grow triticale all year was a huge bonus, matching it in with a cut of silage, cover the ground in slurry and then replant and harvest 3 months later alongside another cut of grass.

are you saying you cut, ploughed, or whatever, and redrilled with hybred rye, or ordinary rye, how did the 2nd lot do ? we are looking for bulk, for spring calvers, having said that, ours analsyed very well, from memory, 10.4 me, and 14 protien, won't mention dry matter, weather forecast said dry, we cut, it pee'd it down, pretty well last rain, we had, a bit beginning aug, just enough to get the rape going behind w/crop, and then into sept.

 

[Al R]

are you saying you cut, ploughed, or whatever, and redrilled with hybred rye, or ordinary rye, how did the 2nd lot do ? we are looking for bulk, for spring calvers, having said that, ours analsyed very well, from memory, 10.4 me, and 14 protien, won't mention dry matter, weather forecast said dry, we cut, it pee'd it down, pretty well last rain, we had, a bit beginning aug, just enough to get the rape going behind w/crop, and then into sept.

I think SU Drive and KWS Magnifico were the 2 varieties I used most. 17t/ac average wholecrop first year (150ac), second year was 15t/ac over 140ac.

I had triticale in the grain store so when the rye WC came off end of June, I slurried very heavily, did a 2 pass min till system to incorporate the slurry and to drill the triticale, by the first week of October it was a fair height, it was out in ear but grain fill hadn’t started (I think it yielded 10t/acre) we mowed and chopped it first week of October with the 5th cut grass silage. Slurry again, plough, drill rye back in.

 

[som farmer]

we feel, that where we need a bulk yield, of sensible quality silage, for late lac cows, this could be a very important way for us to go, we have put maize in behind it, but doubting we will grow it again. So it is interesting to see what others have done !