I thought the eu were going to come running to you guys?

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
Of course it was a personal decision. Someone in that company decided that they would not sell to the Brits because they didn't want to. Not because it was good for them personally but because they didn't like the idea of selling to the UK buyer. It wasn't a robot that decided and it wasn't French policy. You can't get more personal than that.
I think it is time to invest in a dictionary,preferably an English one.
 

nivilla1982

Member
Livestock Farmer
This will cool the blond clown down , he's going around talking about Ireland and Northern Ireland not realising what he's really talking about , the peace in Northern Ireland is walking on thin ice , I was up there recently and it opened my eyes to how raw it still is up there , there are still peace walls dividing Belfast and there there because they need to be there . If Johnston did a tour of Belfast he wouldn't be mouthing off the way he is . As I said before there won't be a hard border on the island of Ireland again , and anyone who says there will be hasn't a clue what their talking about .
In a sense the Belfast Agreement of 98 has entrenched aspects of sectarianism in the political system.
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
Her Majesty`s Revenue and Customs, the ones who enforce taxation and duties throughout the UK including at the borders. They are the same body of people though they are not all out and about dipping fuel tanks. I hope this helps.
Yes it does, I was aware that HMRC enforced excise collection throughout the UK along with checking at borders, the question I was asking is below @wanton dwarf evades the question by going off on tangents around excise duty on red diesel, WTF has that got to do with a border to stop illegal immigrants and evasion of customs duty and tariffs between the EU and the UK. This was after all one of the platforms that the leave campaigners stood on. "Control of our borders"
As per below I am not concerned about the rights and wrongs of Brexit just is there a workable solution for the UK Eire border? If there is what is it?
The EU negotiated a solution with the previous UK administration this was voted out in your Parliament.
In the EU there is no need for checks, how does that make anyone a moron, please can you stop avoiding the question and give me a direct answer, if you possibly can.

"Have I been informed? I think the question I asked was a reasonable one, I am not commenting on whether Brexit is the right or wrong thing to do just asking the question how do you solve the land border between the EU and the UK.
With your esteemed intellect perhaps you could tell me, please make it a workable solution, not just a simple we will have no border and see what happens, that is no plan at all and there is a special place in hell for those that make a monumental decision without a plan."
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
Please let me explain in a little more detail . It was purely a protectionist thing in two instances. A French seed company bred a hybrid asparagus variety and in order to protect French growers and exporters of asparagus crowns they would not export the seed to the UK but they would to Canada. In order to protect an inflated price on hybrid carrot seed a similar situation arose with another French company. I could buy it from the US in original packaging for half the price including freight. I am not sure that any of this is illegal, probably not, but German, Dutch and Danish companies were far more straightforward to deal with. So drop the personal bit, it was nothing to do with that.
If it is a hybrid seed, bred by a company would this have a PVR? Thus the company is entitled to a royalty on the variety.
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
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I don't care what you do , but when your foolish politicians make decisions that effect people outside your country just so they get their power trip kick without realising the concequences and won't listen to anybody causing untold damage to their own economy , brexit is a disaster for the uk , I think more and more uk people realise this now as every day the consequences are now being spelt out to everyone , there's no sign of Borris and his red bus now , what's he going to do when he gets out , as the saying goes the hills are green far away.
You could transpose the EU into the first remark, as for more and more realising the consquences last po I heard more and more want to just go no deal
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
If it is a hybrid seed, bred by a company would this have a PVR? Thus the company is entitled to a royalty on the variety.
That is in theory correct. Also the key to reproduction lies in the possession of the inbred parent lines so the integrity is automatically preserved. I am a believer in the freedom of trade of commodities at a price that you choose. In other words you can give it away if you wish or double the price. On the other hand cartels still exist to artificially inflate prices and I do not agree with them. A few years back Land Rovers were cheaper in France, Holland and Ireland than they were in the UK but people soon cottoned on to this and the Irish in particular were doing a roaring trade in right hand drive Landrovers. It was a price fixing racket which was rotten to the core and eventually was stopped. Thus the French do not have a monopoly on this type of chicanery but they have a strong sense of protecting their home industries by whatever means are available. We always applaud their patriotism and could do with more of it here sometimes but to paint them as model “Europeans” who set the standards is well wide of the mark.
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
That is in theory correct. Also the key to reproduction lies in the possession of the inbred parent lines so the integrity is automatically preserved. I am a believer in the freedom of trade of commodities at a price that you choose. In other words you can give it away if you wish or double the price. On the other hand cartels still exist to artificially inflate prices and I do not agree with them. A few years back Land Rovers were cheaper in France, Holland and Ireland than they were in the UK but people soon cottoned on to this and the Irish in particular were doing a roaring trade in right hand drive Landrovers. It was a price fixing racket which was rotten to the core and eventually was stopped. Thus the French do not have a monopoly on this type of chicanery but they have a strong sense of protecting their home industries by whatever means are available. We always applaud their patriotism and could do with more of it here sometimes but to paint them as model “Europeans” who set the standards is well wide of the mark.
The French are patriotic, they are also European, neither are mutually exclusive, you can be both.
 

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