Immigration Good For The Country?

[graham99]

When someone tells me I work like an immigrant I take it as s compliment. No one will knock on my door and offer me the chance to fulfil my dreams, the only person who can make them happen is me.

I've got to generate the cash, find the land, learn the skills and meet the right people to work with. Everyday brings me closer to my ultimate goal.

heres something to put on your wall. i hope it worked not good at putting up pics

 

[graham99]

I'm not a farmer. I hope to be one some day, but till then I'm a contract shepherd. I'm originally from NE England but now live in Gloucestershire. In the past 12 months contract shepherding has seen me working in Angus (Scotland), Gloucestershire, Hertfordshire, Oxfordshire, Wiltshire and Worcestershire.

Unfortunately, as contract shepherding is a career change (I was originally a soldier) it doesn't yet provide enough income for me year round. So I earn extra cash as an HGV driver. The best wages for this are in Somerset, 90mins drive away. To maximise earnings I stay down there 3 nights a week.

It costs nothing to sleep in my van and showers are free at the services.

My world is far from perfect. The Army was massively reduced by defence cuts. HGV wages are under continual downward pressure from Eastern European immigrants. Land prices are totally unrelated to production potential. Rents are inflated by subsidy, which I have no entitlements for.

But complaining about things beyond your control doesn't change anything. So if you want to increase your earnings retrain or move.

you will never be a farmer .
new zealand full of farmers ,who made all their money out of side of farming and then go farming .
to be a farmer in my book, you need to own the farm by running a farm that pays it way .
and it was idots like me who pushed the price of land out of young farmers hands by work extra hard so the farmers i worked for could buy more farms

 

[graham99]

You misunderstand me. There's no making up for it going on. The military gave me the skills and self belief to do what I do now. It also meant I had enough disposable income to purchase my first property at the age of 23.



My labour is not cheap. I travel and stay in the van because it pays a lot better than local jobs. I don't need to do this to put bread in the table. I do this to generate surplus cash to invest.
There is no abundance of cheap labour available when it comes to HGV drivers. There is a national shortage, even with thousands of Eastern Europeans driving .Despite the high pay many British people don't want the long unsociable houes.



You complain of not making enough money, but refuse to take responsibility by retraining or relocating. You blame others for your problems and expect the government to solve them by penalising those who work hard to get ahead.

That tells me everything I need to know about you.

do you have a family ,i hope not .
when you have childern you take some time to be a father .or we end up with more of the people we moan about

 

[graham99]

I was talking to man who employees over 100 polish workers in his factory, reckons they great when they first come over work work work soon as they get educated on our employment rules etc etc they no different to anyone else, prefers British workers now less hassle.

hit the nail on the head .
in new zealand we will give them citizenship after six years .
no low wage kiwi worker gets that carrot here

 

[unlacedgecko]

heres something to put on your wall. i hope it worked not good at putting up pics

I've seen it before. I'm self employed. I've no interest in Lambos, but I'll buy my own Hilux one day.

 

[unlacedgecko]

do you have a family ,i hope not .
when you have childern you take some time to be a father .or we end up with more of the people we moan about

My son will be 5 in December. He wants for nothing.

 

[unlacedgecko]

you will never be a farmer .
new zealand full of farmers ,who made all their money out of side of farming and then go farming .
to be a farmer in my book, you need to own the farm by running a farm that pays it way .
and it was idots like me who pushed the price of land out of young farmers hands by work extra hard so the farmers i worked for could buy more farms

I am confident I will one day own my farm. We shall see.

 

[Traffic dodger]

You misunderstand me. There's no making up for it going on. The military gave me the skills and self belief to do what I do now. It also meant I had enough disposable income to purchase my first property at the age of 23.



My labour is not cheap. I travel and stay in the van because it pays a lot better than local jobs. I don't need to do this to put bread in the table. I do this to generate surplus cash to invest.
There is no abundance of cheap labour available when it comes to HGV drivers. There is a national shortage, even with thousands of Eastern Europeans driving .Despite the high pay many British people don't want the long unsociable houes.



You complain of not making enough money, but refuse to take responsibility by retraining or relocating. You blame others for your problems and expect the government to solve them by penalising those who work hard to get ahead.

That tells me everything I need to know about you.

As you as well , you seem a regular know it all.
If a business says it can not do something because it will make a loss that’s good business sense. I said the cost of retraining I would not recover my costs and I am lazy.
As for relocating I am guessing you’re the the type that tells his partner their relocating and thumps them if they object. It’s a joint decision in our house where we live not just mine.

 

[czechmate]

As you as well , you seem a regular know it all.
If a business says it can not do something because it will make a loss that’s good business sense. I said the cost of retraining I would not recover my costs and I am lazy.
As for relocating I am guessing you’re the the type that tells his partner their relocating and thumps them if they object. It’s a joint decision in our house where we live not just mine.

Bloody hell. I bet llamados is glad she jumped ship, not having to read this kind of crap anymore

 

[dstudent]

As you as well , you seem a regular know it all.
If a business says it can not do something because it will make a loss that’s good business sense. I said the cost of retraining I would not recover my costs and I am lazy.
As for relocating I am guessing you’re the the type that tells his partner their relocating and thumps them if they object. It’s a joint decision in our house where we live not just mine.

WTF is that?
How you go about making statements like that?
Just because you are not winning the argument, you feel the need to come out with personal crap like that?

 

[FonterraFarmer]

you will never be a farmer .
new zealand full of farmers ,who made all their money out of side of farming and then go farming .
to be a farmer in my book, you need to own the farm by running a farm that pays it way .
and it was idots like me who pushed the price of land out of young farmers hands by work extra hard so the farmers i worked for could buy more farms

Where are you then? Virtually all the farmers I know who own farms started with sfa , and have run and paid for their farm from what they produce from their farm. Sure there are Queen Street farmers , but they are few and far between.

 

[czechmate]

WTF is that?
How you go about making statements like that?
Just because you are not winning the argument, you feel the need to come out with personal crap like that?

Actually it's an interesting psychology lesson. I find this post doesn't make me suspect that "unlac" is a wife beater, as I suspect the poster wanted. More makes me suspect just what an unpleasant character he must be, "traffic" that is, to have such a thought.
I Feel more sorry for him than angry

 

[dstudent]

Actually it's an interesting psychology lesson. I find this post doesn't make me suspect that "unlac" is a wife beater, as I suspect the poster wanted. More makes me suspect just what an unpleasant character he must be, "traffic" that is, to have such a thought.
I Feel more sorry for him than angry

Well it shows how little he knows @unlacedgecko , or it will know it s the Mrs that does the thumping

 

[FonterraFarmer]

I am confident I will one day own my farm. We shall see.

Good attitude and anyone who says otherwise , tell them to "feck off". Owning a farm is not for the faint hearted, without determination, hard work and a bit of luck , it will never happen.

 

[unlacedgecko]

Well it shows how little he knows @unlacedgecko , or it will know it s the Mrs that does the thumping

Have you met my wife?!