Inducing heifer

crofteress

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Livestock Farmer
thats such a shame the vets wont take you on, Oban vets are 80 miles from me and they dont mind the distance. They get here quicker than the ones 40 miles away. I feel for you with the problem, you could always put some anesthetic in yourself, the kind you buy for dehorning, if shes jumpy
 

sjewart

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thats such a shame the vets wont take you on, Oban vets are 80 miles from me and they dont mind the distance. They get here quicker than the ones 40 miles away. I feel for you with the problem, you could always put some anesthetic in yourself, the kind you buy for dehorning, if shes jumpy
Its done. Stabbed her with scissors. Draining now VERY slowly. Don't think iv made hole big enough so might have to do again.
 

RushesToo

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Location
Fingringhoe
Thank you all for your kind words and encouragement.

@bovine the hole i made is tiny. Should it have been roughly 2 fingers wide?
@sjewart well done, pressure under a wound hurts. I asked bovine last night because it looked like it needed draining, I am sure it still does. With that recommendation there is fluid to drain, make sure you get through to it and it starts to move out. It may be depth not width that is the problem. In a healthy animal a wound can heal quick at the surface and below.
 

sjewart

Member
@sjewart well done, pressure under a wound hurts. I asked bovine last night because it looked like it needed draining, I am sure it still does. With that recommendation there is fluid to drain, make sure you get through to it and it starts to move out. It may be depth not width that is the problem. In a healthy animal a wound can heal quick at the surface and below.
Thank you. Il see what it looks like tomorrow and repeat the procedure more aggressively if need be.
 
If its draining it is big enough in my opinion, enlarging pointless and could create a further issue.Not seen thread for a couple of days but think I saw, or interpretated, you were paying for repeat visits. I changed practices a few years back for different reasons to level of performance, but both practices are a set fee for c section, drugs, and any return visits that may be required
 

bovine

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Location
North
Thank you all for your kind words and encouragement.

@bovine the hole i made is tiny. Should it have been roughly 2 fingers wide?

I guess I usually make a hole just big enough to stick the end of a hose in. ~1cm

As long as the fluid can drain and the cow stays on antibiotics its not a problem. The problem comes when you get a large pocket of fluid - it becomes a common site to get infected. I wouldn't be worried. If the swelling is down tomorrow then great, if not make the hole a little bigger
 
Location
East Mids
No one round here would pay for a damaged animal. Tell me about how this works if you don't mind.

We once had a complete disaster: did a c section on a cow, the calf was dead and upon stitching up the cow just keeled over dead on the spot. No obvious reason, just the way it goes. I told the vet to stuff the calf back in and stitch her up at which he looked at me incredulously and I said it would save on disposal as well as having the guts fall out all over the shop!
Our deadstock collector takes calf for nothing if there is a cow there too.
 

sjewart

Member
If its draining it is big enough in my opinion, enlarging pointless and could create a further issue.Not seen thread for a couple of days but think I saw, or interpretated, you were paying for repeat visits. I changed practices a few years back for different reasons to level of performance, but both practices are a set fee for c section, drugs, and any return visits that may be required
I haven't actually had a visit from the vet since she did the c-sec on Friday. I didn't realise vets had set costs. Iv no idea if aftercare is included but i expect it to be in region of£400.
 

sjewart

Member
I guess I usually make a hole just big enough to stick the end of a hose in. ~1cm

As long as the fluid can drain and the cow stays on antibiotics its not a problem. The problem comes when you get a large pocket of fluid - it becomes a common site to get infected. I wouldn't be worried. If the swelling is down tomorrow then great, if not make the hole a little bigger
Its a large pocket of fluid so im keeping her on pen and strep for another week. I cant see it draining any more and her side is still big so il see what its like in the morning and maybe repeat again with scissors.
 

bovine

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Location
North
Sometimes the fluid can be in different 'pockets'. You can need to drain the different compartments, maybe make the hole big enough to get a clean, gloved finger in and explore. I'd like it flushing with clean water really.

We have a fee for caesareans that includes a single follow up visit, but multiple visits back would be charged as would extra treatment needed.
 
Had one earlier in year during mad lambing/calving period and never looked at bill but would guess if its gone up a bit from last year we would be about 320, which is cheap for area, newish practice went in cheap to build up numbers which certainly worked. Oh there are a few other things they do @bovine but I think you would want to kill me if I posted on here!!
 

Old Boar

Member
Location
West Wales
When the vet made the incision, she also cut through all the little nerve endings in the skin. These take a while to heal, so, in theory, making a hole for drainage should not hurt the cow (bet it made you wince though!). I think I would stand with my hand on the scar and see if any places were squishier or hotter than others and start there.
Heat the end of the scissors in the gas flame or pour boiling water over the ends first (and let them cool!) to make sure you are not introducing further infection.
Hope it all settles soon.
 

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