Is it legal for a neighbour to kill my guineafowl flow if they go on to their land?

[Garden Pixy]

We have two flocks of free ranging guineafowl and one of them (16 birds) has been feeding in a neighbouring property. The neighbour has killed 14 and badly wounded another with a crossbow. Is it legal for him to do so if the birds are 'trespassing' on his land?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

[hendrebc]

You know what I mean though! There is a certain type of adult male, who owns a cross bow, and a samurai sword, likes weird manga porn, and lives with his mum.

I was going to ask wtf is manga porn but I don't think I want to know

 

[MRT]

I was going to ask wtf is manga porn but I don't think I want to know

I bet @TexelBen could tell you

 

[hendrebc]

I bet @TexelBen could tell you

Funnily enough that's exactly what I thought as well.

 

[Coximus]

Thanks for the replies so far but it doesn't answer the question as to the legality...what if it were sheep, cattle or horses 'trespassing'?

Simple,
if your fowl trespass on his land, theyre his to do as he feels while they are their, including shoot (with a licensed lawful weapon) or dispose of via anyother lawful means including sale.
You should not let them leave your land if you wish to keep them.

The use of a crossbow however is illigal and that appears to be the only issue here.

If it is sheep or cattle - they are livestock not fowl, and subject to straying livestock rules which again permit the victim of the tresspass to dispose lawfully by sale or slaughter the stock and keep the proceeds after 14 days.

Horses are different and covered by the Control of Horses Act - having used it myself which allows you to destroy or sell the horse after a few days if the owner does not pay compensation for damage, and then (after paying) collect the straying horse.

Obviously you should always speak to the owner of the animals first as a courtesy - but if your fowl keep escaping - excluding the use of the crossbow which is indefensible, you really are asking for trouble not fencing your animals in so they cant escape.

 

[Northdowns Martin]

Thanks for the replies so far but it doesn't answer the question as to the legality...what if it were sheep, cattle or horses 'trespassing'?

Can you help us out a bit with more information? Like what Country's laws are we talking about? Were the guineafowl regular escapees or was this a one off foray over enemy lines? Had you adequately fenced them in and repaired fences when necessary? Had you totally pee'd your neighbour off so much that he was out to make a point? Because I had a similar neighbour who like yourself did and still does let his livestock out to graze the green green grass on the otherside of the fence. Thankfully he's not my problem anymore as I was close to taking your neighbours course of action.

 

[michael N123]

Why’s it illegal to shoot something in the uk with a crossbow but fine with a underpowered air gun ?

and crossbows aren’t regulated can easily get one delivered to your door capable of dropping big game

https://tacticalarchery.co.uk/products/ravin-crossbow-package-r29x-sniper-predator-dusk-camo would make you look abit mental using it tho

 

[Dry Rot]

If it is sheep or cattle - they are livestock not fowl, and subject to straying livestock rules which again permit the victim of the tresspass to dispose lawfully by sale or slaughter the stock and keep the proceeds after 14 days.

Can you give me a reference for this please?

As I am sure you are aware, poultry are "livestock" under 'sheep worrying' legislation and as the owner of poultry, I get as much protection from the law as the sheep or cattle owner foes if my neighbour's dog worries them.

Which ever side of the fence they are on, I was under the impression that poultry are still property. If they are no longer property, how can I be held responsible for the damage they do?

I repeat, isn't the law fun?

 

[Yale]

Do Guinea fowl have to be kept in with bird flu regs….?

 

[Dry Rot]

Why’s it illegal to shoot something in the uk with a crossbow but fine with a underpowered air gun ?

and crossbows aren’t regulated can easily get one delivered to your door capable of dropping big game

https://tacticalarchery.co.uk/products/ravin-crossbow-package-r29x-sniper-predator-dusk-camo would make you look abit mental using it tho

Be careful what you say. You have to have a licence to possess an air rifle (of any power) in Scotland and the process for getting one is a lot more complicated than getting a FAC! FACs in Scotland are issued by the Home Office (London) and air weapons certificates are issued by Police Scotland. Those voting for indepence, please note.

 

[Kidds]

I think the op might well be another troll tbh.

 

[neilo]

Do Guinea fowl have to be kept in with bird flu regs….?

Nothing does, as of a few weeks ago.

 

[roscoe erf]

I think the op might well be another troll tbh.

Yep seems rife on here atm

 

[hendrebc]

I think the op might well be another troll tbh.

Go back to the top of page one. They voted one answer that agreed with them as the apparent solution and have ignored everyone else. I didn't even know you could do such a thing

 

[JSmith]

I was going to ask wtf is manga porn but I don't think I want to know

I’d like to know out of interest,

 

[TexelBen]

I bet @TexelBen could tell you

It's an animated type of Japanese pornography, like anime(cartoons), but shaggin and stuff.

@MRT @hendrebc Just Google it, you'll be fine

 

[hendrebc]

It's an animated type of Japanese pornography, like anime(cartoons), but shaggin and stuff.

@MRT @hendrebc Just Google it, you'll be fine

My reply to @JSmith was going to be wait for someone here to tell you googling it sounds dangerous

 

[JSmith]

My reply to @JSmith was going to be wait for someone here to tell you googling it sounds dangerous

My thought exactly, just searching it as the mrs walks in the room, an on the screen is a Chinese man giving it to a bowl of rice while being watched by a monkey!!

 

[TexelBen]

My thought exactly, just searching it as the mrs walks in the room, an on the screen is a Chinese man giving it to a bowl of rice while being watched by a monkey!!

Enjoy your new kink

 

[Coximus]

Can you give me a reference for this please?

As I am sure you are aware, poultry are "livestock" under 'sheep worrying' legislation and as the owner of poultry, I get as much protection from the law as the sheep or cattle owner foes if my neighbour's dog worries them.

Which ever side of the fence they are on, I was under the impression that poultry are still property. If they are no longer property, how can I be held responsible for the damage they do?

I repeat, isn't the law fun?

So not to be rude.... but its pretty basic farming law - the Animals Act 1971, very clearely sets out the process by which you detain the livestock that have roamed onto your land, demand payment and then dispose of them after 14 days. Absolutly vital to understand when dealing with goodlife neighbors and problem neighbours.

Good fences make good neighbors!!!!!!


Poultry and guinie fowl are differenhe - Chickens are considered livestock and guinie fowl are game, similar to if you rear pheasants and they go live next door.

Yes you get protection on your land but if your animals leave your land your protections against harm are pretty much zero or close to, as youve failed in your duty to keep them safely enclosed.

 

[Mc115reed]

Why’s it illegal to shoot something in the uk with a crossbow but fine with a underpowered air gun ?

and crossbows aren’t regulated can easily get one delivered to your door capable of dropping big game

https://tacticalarchery.co.uk/products/ravin-crossbow-package-r29x-sniper-predator-dusk-camo would make you look abit mental using it tho

Kinda want a crossbow now Iv seen that but it’s a no from me on the manga porn lol