Is Red tractor detrimental to your mental health

Is Red Tractor detrimental to your mental health

  • Yes, Red tractor increase my stress and anxiety

    Votes: 352 97.0%
  • No, Red tractor gives me peace of mind that the product I produce is safe to enter the food chain

    Votes: 11 3.0%

  • Total voters
    363

Humble Village Farmer

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
This might be a silly question but does red tractor have an bearing on exports of produce? Are other countries actively seeking farm assured grain, for example? Or are we being made to produce to standards that no one else wants, and brings no benefits?
I think the trade like it because they can charge a premium. They just choose not to pass is back to the grower.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
This might be a silly question but does red tractor have an bearing on exports of produce? Are other countries actively seeking farm assured grain, for example? Or are we being made to produce to standards that no one else wants, and brings no benefits?

not for grain no

we are producing to standards not only un requirements to export but not even required from imports by our domestic buyers !

absolute nonsensical
 

Boysground

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
I think the trade like it because they can charge a premium. They just choose not to pass is back to the grower.

Inspection / assurance has become an industry in itself. The actual end use of whatever is being inspected is almost irrelevant. How many times has somebody posted on TFF that the inspector spent more time in the office than actually looking at the farm. My red tractor portal has around 90 documents uploaded, covering dairy beef and arable. That’s so many how is it going to be possible for me to check the relevant one when the need arises. There should be a cull of the requirements properly about 90% are useless form filling.

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texelburger

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
Inspection / assurance has become an industry in itself. The actual end use of whatever is being inspected is almost irrelevant. How many times has somebody posted on TFF that the inspector spent more time in the office than actually looking at the farm. My red tractor portal has around 90 documents uploaded, covering dairy beef and arable. That’s so many how is it going to be possible for me to check the relevant one when the need arises. There should be a cull of the requirements properly about 90% are useless form filling.

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I'm afraid RT are increasing requirements,exponentially, according to our inspector on his last visit.
 

J 1177

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Durham, UK
Im dropping rt beef this year, after that i only sell aprox 250 ton of wheat, if i can feed more cattle and find a outlet for the remainder, the grain bit will be binned.
The two faced attitude of Minette Batters is astonishing going at the government over trade deals but ignoring the fact that her baby is one of the biggest stress factors for uk farming. (I also think it will one day prove to be illegal).
I only wish i was a member of the NFU so i could quit it.
 

Boysground

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
I'm afraid RT are increasing requirements,exponentially, according to our inspector on his last visit.

As I said in my 1st post the stress this causes is leading up to a massive problem. Red tractor have to understand this, I am fed up, I had the call, I explained that I had 2 people on holiday and was right up against it. Basically told I had no choice, the inspector emailed a checklist at 21:40 the evening before. That is not the way an organisation like red tractor should run.

I think I am going to start billing them for paracetamol, certainly my combine contractor should be billing them as he lost a days work because I had to be inspected.

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Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
For dairy farmers, it is a particular stress. They can put us out of business overnight and the cows still have to be milked and fed.

Is right

If anything at good comes out of that Panorama programme of last Feb it would be the realisation of the damage their spur of the minute decisions can/could make. Damn lucky that the farmer is still alive
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Whole thing's out of control. They think can just keep adding nonsense standards and we've no choice but to keep paying the membership.

Can bankrupt a business just because we haven't written down what day we filled up the rodent bait box. Having to test sprayer every year on a small farm also annoys me, as does NRoSO having to get silly points for reading a magazine etc, and having to pay NRoSO otherwise fail RT, and can't sell produce.

All time this goes on, imports come in under a different protocol. We ask if we can use exact same protocol and we're told "no". Well I wonder why that is? And who was on the committee deciding such things - NFU, RT, AIC and AHDB. AHDB are on record saying they only want one assurance scheme.

My blood pressure can't cope. Stress can be a long term condition which manifests itself in one big almighty heart attack, stroke or brain hemorrhage.
 
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texelburger

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
As I said in my 1st post the stress this causes is leading up to a massive problem. Red tractor have to understand this, I am fed up, I had the call, I explained that I had 2 people on holiday and was right up against it. Basically told I had no choice, the inspector emailed a checklist at 21:40 the evening before. That is not the way an organisation like red tractor should run.

I think I am going to start billing them for paracetamol, certainly my combine contractor should be billing them as he lost a days work because I had to be inspected.

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That's shocking behaviour and attitude by them.Don' t they understand farmers are busy,especially at this time of year.
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
As I said in my 1st post the stress this causes is leading up to a massive problem. Red tractor have to understand this, I am fed up, I had the call, I explained that I had 2 people on holiday and was right up against it. Basically told I had no choice, the inspector emailed a checklist at 21:40 the evening before. That is not the way an organisation like red tractor should run.

I think I am going to start billing them for paracetamol, certainly my combine contractor should be billing them as he lost a days work because I had to be inspected.

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Not RT, but some years ago, I had a phone call at 4.30pm from a civil servant whose Organisation will remain confidential, who informed me that, He would be calling to see me at 10am the following morning...

I suggested he start off on his journey there and then if he wanted to catchup with me, as I was in Madeira at the time.... He demanded to know when I would be available, and I added 5 days from my return to check over everything.... Sorted.
 

topground

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North Somerset.
Every other industry is regulated... construction/factory/roadbuilding/banking/pharmaceuticals/healthcare



QC .... Quality Control.....It's the way of the 21st world nowadays
UK Food Hygiene and Trading Standards law are perfectly adequate without having the RT protection racket imposed on top to provide the supermarket cartel with their due diligence defence under the Food Safety Act 1990 at the expense of the primary producer.
Do not confuse regulation under the law where there is an appeal process through the courts with Farm Assurance where there is no appeal process.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
RT doesn’t bother me so much as my cowman who is terrible about it. Almost obsessive and feels the weight of the world on his shoulders in case there’s the slightest problem. It really does stress him out almost constantly.
While there are some basic records that are of some use, we all know that it is mostly a load of rubbish. Red tape for the sake of creating and now supporting a whole new industry, as if nothing ever got done properly in any industry before assurance auditing. It’s just a job creation scheme that suits the officious and pedantic types.
 

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