I've got blackgrass

mghley

Member
Location
Derbyshire
in 2015 my ad maize was riddled....also bits in cereals....all my indices were 0......switched to sheep and spring cereals...ditched rt.....been harder work....lost some money....BUT....havn't seen any BG since and indices back into high 2s

not 100% sure i'd recommend it though TBH :scratchhead:
Two friends locally had same problem with BG. Used break with forage crops and into spring cereals. Did my sheep good, did ground good and helped clear up problem.. both of them now doing it as part of rotation. Win win
 

Dave645

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Arable Farmer
Location
N Lincs
Funny you say this. I was thinking this afternoon when spraying T2 that knowing the chemical giants, there's probably a patented chemical somewhere that would wipe it out, and Bayer bought the patent and shelved it.
I asked an old spray man, he said there used to be a chemical that could make black grass go blind, I wonder if it’s still useable if they relaunched it?
But that could stop mature black grass from creating long term problems and demand for chemical control if it worked, it does make you wonder doesn’t it.
 

spin cycle

Member
Location
north norfolk
Well there we are folks. In a rather astonishing and radical departure from the norm, the answer to many agricultural questions in life appears to be, can you believe it- 'get some sheep'. Never thought I would see the day.

both my agronomist and i were , were surprised at how indices went up.....i suppose leaving grass down 2-3 years meant less disturbance......sheep poo :scratchhead:....i was taking hay/straw off though:scratchhead:

i think stubble turnips help to.....sheep hooves gently churning ground chitting bg all autumn/winter

big arable operation near me is 'all over it'....pigs...tack sheep....rotation........but smaller one man band arable farmers don't want the hassle i suppose:scratchhead:...TBH i can sympathise with that 😁
 
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Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
we have two patches of rye grass now because of that exactly where bsler dropped first two bales and a bit round the headland
sprayed it off first time it’s now beet and had averdex and c max
we will see what pops up in wheat next year when sown again will be nuked again 😡

Am pretty sure there is a typo in your post and that you remember fondly the days some years ago when you could legally use Avadex on the UK Sugar Beet crop. Wouldn't want a casual reader of this forum to take wrong impression a sugar beet farmer in UK used an illegal chemical like those forinners do!
 
Funny you say this. I was thinking this afternoon when spraying T2 that knowing the chemical giants, there's probably a patented chemical somewhere that would wipe it out, and Bayer bought the patent and shelved it.
Doughtfull that is true

if a company had a chemical that would pass the approval regulations for wheat and barley they would sell 3 to 4 million acres a year £20 £ 80 million in sales a year in uk alone
 
Am pretty sure there is a typo in your post and that you remember fondly the days some years ago when you could legally use Avadex on the UK Sugar Beet crop. Wouldn't want a casual reader of this forum to take wrong impression a sugar beet farmer in UK used an illegal chemical like those forinners do!
Yes meant averdex in the wheat , ooops
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Well there we are folks. In a rather astonishing and radical departure from the norm, the answer to many agricultural questions in life appears to be, can you believe it- 'get some sheep'. Never thought I would see the day.
Perhaps some cows too? Get plenty off both and rotate them round the farm, do the soil good.
Little bit of everything, perhaps we could call it Mixed farming? :unsure: (y)
 

mghley

Member
Location
Derbyshire
Perhaps some cows too? Get plenty off both and rotate them round the farm, do the soil good.
Little bit of everything, perhaps we could call it Mixed farming? :unsure: (y)
For many years a lot of arable men have scoffed at the thought of having sheep on the farm, but increasingly grass and sheep in a rotation are being seen to offer a valuable alternative to constant cereals.
 

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