KVERNELAND Or KUHN

[Sharpy]

Why are you worried about hills? EMC machines are fine on hills? weigh cell machines on the other hand on hills... oh and you can have an EMC machine with a weigh cells as well to see whats in the hopper if your really want, but most save the money and have EMC without the cells in my experience as they are not used for the spreading calculation on the EMC machine.

Vicon weigh cell machines compensate for hills, slopes, and rough terrain. On the go monitoring with adjustments after 1 minute then every 30 seconds. Very accurate as there is up to 50kg of suction from each disc.

 

[spikeislander]

We got a Kuhn 40.1 w about 5 years ago and I was pretty impressed with it to start with. But roll on a few years and I have to say I’m a bit disappointed with it now. The paint work has not lasted well ( our 20 year old krm left in better nick than this one will be in 10).
And recently one of the weighcells packed up , they are about £800 so not cheap, but the biggest disappointment was the lack of communication from Kuhn themselves we just wanted to know if it had definitely gone and how to find out or whether there is anything we could have done, but to be honest I would have been better off phoning my dog!
So for that reason I would never go for one again.

 

[Farma Parma]

KV backup seems impressive & outside of warranty just the same. i have contact details of there top man in the UK & he has been very helpfull

 

[Farma Parma]

Interesting - I am due to have a sit down with the KV rep to talk about the CL Geospread because TL is rather pricey. Kubota do the same model but won’t put as many hopper extensions on. How many bags can you get in?

TL was dearer than kuhn 40.1w which i priced at the time, but dont forget it was all priced up with the TELLUS screen,
Unlock Codes for Vari Rate & GPS & Sectional Control.
Doesnt need any 3rd party extra box neither.
The Kuhn 40.11w couldn't do all of this with out getting for example a Patchwork box.
iam sure at the end of the day the KV Geo TL was about £1500 dearer..

 

[benny6910]

Why is a Kuhn no good on hillsides compared to other spreaders, currently run a sulky x 50 and not had any issues.

 

[KB6930]

Kuhn drop fertilizer straight onto the veins and to change the spread width you change where it drops the fertilizer onto the discs so when going uphill it spreads narrow and down spreads wider

 

[Jim75]

Kuhn drop fertilizer straight onto the veins and to change the spread width you change where it drops the fertilizer onto the discs so when going uphill it spreads narrow and down spreads wider

Can't say I've ever striped with a Kuhn mds or 30.1 era on steep ground. Plenty seem to manage with amazone though

 

[KB6930]

Can't say I've ever striped with a Kuhn mds or 30.1 era on steep ground. Plenty seem to manage with amazone though

Good on you if you can get 1 to not strip a hill but all of my steep stuff that used to be done at half rate twice is now done single pass and not stripped anymore.

Not a single Kuhn round here that doesn't strip on a hill. I had Kuhn out at my first 1 an axis as we were having stripping problems and after a while we worked o it tray testing at 10k and 150kgs/hec only worked at that speed if you went to 14k and 250 the spread pattern was totally different then when I said we'll lay them out on that hill he said no point as it will be wrong.

Kuhn suggestion fit a hydraulic top link to level the spreader!!

 

[Jim75]

Run a kv TL just now purely because it has weigh cells and was bought very very well.
I'd class the Kuhn as idiot proof. Must've been something wrong somewhere. Would regularly be putting on 350-500kg/ha.
Same with the amazone zebra stripes round here, probably human error somewhere or very small margins for error.

 

[benny6910]

Kuhn drop fertilizer straight onto the veins and to change the spread width you change where it drops the fertilizer onto the discs so when going uphill it spreads narrow and down spreads wider

Ok thanks, I nearly bought one last year glad I didn’t now.

 

[KB6930]

Run a kv TL just now purely because it has weigh cells and was bought very very well.
I'd class the Kuhn as idiot proof. Must've been something wrong somewhere. Would regularly be putting on 350-500kg/ha.
Same with the amazone zebra stripes round here, probably human error somewhere or very small margins for error.

Only thing wrong was the lack of veins it went back after a season and was replaced with a axera which had 4 each disc and other than stripping slopes it could cope with big rates no bother I used to spread tattie fertilizer at 1200 /hectare and it was great it would've been replaced with another if they hadn't taken a backward step with the new H-emc spreader and the dealer wasn't even offering scrap value for it so went KV

 

[Jim75]

Only thing wrong was the lack of veins it went back after a season and was replaced with a axera which had 4 each disc and other than stripping slopes it could cope with big rates no bother I used to spread tattie fertilizer at 1200 /hectare and it was great it would've been replaced with another if they hadn't taken a backward step with the new H-emc spreader and the dealer wasn't even offering scrap value for it so went KV

Yeah the kv is good having the extra vanes. Think it says a lot what type of machine the tray tester guy that comes up is using himself considering he sees them all in action.............kv incase you're wondering

 

[juke]

is the vicon spreader the same machine as the kvernland ?

 

[Farma Parma]

is the vicon spreader the same machine as the kvernland ?

100% apart from the paint colours n stickers

 

[juke]

100% apart from the paint colours n stickers

these spreaders better than the equivalent amazon as well as the Kuhn... not worried about section control or vari rate just weigh cells good pattern , headland system and paint quality

 

[General-Lee]

Same with the amazone zebra stripes round here, probably human error somewhere or very small margins for error.

We’ve a Amazone Hydro profis and is pretty much as good as the Kuhn before it can slightly see striping on steep fields but only faint, neighbour on other hand same set up looks like it’s been rolled.

Sure lots come down to attention to detail too.

 

[Farma Parma]

these spreaders better than the equivalent amazon as well as the Kuhn... not worried about section control or vari rate just weigh cells good pattern , headland system and paint quality

4seasons in with mine and no spreading errors of any sort & i put all-sorts thru it. Nitram being as accurate as within 50kg in most fields of the recs.

 

[Farma Parma]

these spreaders better than the equivalent amazon as well as the Kuhn... not worried about section control or vari rate just weigh cells good pattern , headland system and paint quality

Soz no rusting of painted surfaces neither. It has sum Stainless Steel issues when it was new but it must have faulty steel, it was all replaced before i got it & none has rusted since. Mind its washed like new sitting in the shed layered in a mix of oil n diesel. looks pristine.

 

[Farma Parma]

is the vicon spreader the same machine as the kvernland ?

even if you dont need vari-rate if your remotely thinking of a new spreader there is deffo benefits in having section control & GPS full operation for on/off at headlands the lot. no manual operator can judge the on/off points as good, never mind the elimination of no over lapping coming in & out of butts if you dont have sectional control its either the whole width on or off. There sectional control on 24m as at the width i use has 2m control right across either side. so that's 12 points that comes on/off depending on the shape of the field or headland turns.

 

[KB6930]

these spreaders better than the equivalent amazon as well as the Kuhn... not worried about section control or vari rate just weigh cells good pattern , headland system and paint quality

Simple answer yes.