Landfill sale price?

[dannewhouse]

We have a field which I want to tip to level the field up.
It isn't massive but will equate to around 100,000 ton.
What would it be worth to sell as a hole with planning passed with tight stipulation for height and depth of topsoil when finished.

Can you recommend anyone to get the correct permission for this? And perhaps a rough estimate?

 

[betweenthelines]

~Have you ever listened to The Archers?

 

[dannewhouse]

~Have you ever listened to The Archers?

Can't say I have? Anything worth a search?

 

[Bongodog]

My advice would be to find the biggest most reputable muck away contractor within 20 or so miles and ask them what its worth to them. It will probably be the lowest offer you will get, but it will be the one where you won't end up being prosecuted by the Environment agency. There are so many horror stories where landowners have ended up with thousands of tonnes of waste to clear up.
Our Parish council had a piece of ground with extensive hard standings that required clearing, , the local big muck away people cleared the concrete and backfilled with earth. There was one man full time at the gate handling the permits from the drivers as they entered the site, every load of concrete that left and every load of earth that entered was documented, even though it was 100% their own lorries.

 

[dannewhouse]

I have a particular company in mind who I want to run the site, not the biggest but quite honest and I think I could keep an eye on it a little.
I don't want them having the trouble of planning etc it wants selling as ready to start or just do XYZ ie roadway /wheelwash.
I wanted a ballpark figure, I'm not out for top dollar but have a few projects I would like funding And wondering which ones to kick start ready for this money comeing to see them through.

We have the scope to run it ourselves but as you've pointed out, do I want the hassle paperwork and non payers.

No point bothering if the figures nearer 10k but if it gets to 1m be nice!!! (I am aware that's pie in the sky but someone did suggest £10 per ton, I think that's nearer a final charge for tipping per lorry)

 

[delilah]

Used to rent a yard off RMC, it had a flooded brick pit out the back. They sold the site along with every other hole in the ground they owned, after being stung big time by a waste firm filling a hole they owned with stuff they shouldn't have (from that big fuel dump explosion north of London few years ago). If a firm the size of RMC saw it all as a liability I would be very wary of going there.

 

[serf]

most reputable muck away contractor within 20 or so

That will be a task on it's own

 

[d williams]

We have a field which I want to tip to level the field up.
It isn't massive but will equate to around 100,000 ton.
What would it be worth to sell as a hole with planning passed with tight stipulation for height and depth of topsoil when finished.

Can you recommend anyone to get the correct permission for this? And perhaps a rough estimate?

Depends on where you are in the country also it will a inert site not land fill

 

[dannewhouse]

AHH that's a good point.
I definitely ment inert subsoil/rubble
Definatley nothing dodgy.
3 miles from M62 j25 Huddersfield.

 

[som farmer]

£10 ton, 16/20 ton loads, £160 or £200 loads, 100,000 ton, £1,000,000. We have a firm local, will buy suitable bits, fill them up, and then get p/p for a house. 1 place near here, the concrete farm yard, is 18 feet, below the surface, and the ground sloped away, house has 20/25 foot of made up ground under it. Used to be £30 a lorry, so £10 ton, seems excessive, but definitely a good earner, just get a decent firm to do the license and run it.

 

[puppet]

You probably would have to be quite hands on to check that it was only inert material going in. No matter the contract, it is your land so you have to clear up.
Odd tyres, broken asbestos and metal might have the authorities getting you to dig it up again. I have seen it happen and I hear that SEPA can fine you £1000 per ton.
The planning permission and conditions attached are likely to be very expensive

 

[delilah]

Is it a field that you want to level up to then carry on farming it, or to then sell on for development ?

 

[dannewhouse]

Is it a field that you want to level up to then carry on farming it, or to then sell on for development ?

Carry on farming, were cropping about 4.5ha out of 5.6+
But a fare bit of what we use is a tad steep and would be better lifted/levelled.
It's a big wide valley with ex day hole / bell pits from mining years ago.
No topsoil on.it but it a tad steep and very uneven what I want lifting

 

[delilah]

Carry on farming, were cropping about 4.5ha out of 5.6+
But a fare bit of what we use is a tad steep and would be better lifted/levelled.
It's a big wide valley with ex day hole / bell pits from mining years ago.
No topsoil on.it but it a tad steep and very uneven what I want lifting

That's where my concern would lie; having ownership and hence liability for the rest of your natural. If it was to be sold on for development I would be less wary, but you really need to be 100% certain its all safe and legal if keeping ownership.

 

[dannewhouse]

That's where my concern would lie; having ownership and hence liability for the rest of your natural. If it was to be sold on for development I would be less wary, but you really need to be 100% certain its all safe and legal if keeping ownership.

Could you set up a clause in the sale of the hole?
Or even stipulate that they must have an insurance against something that way.
Although it would only come to life years later I would obviously keep the insurance docs?

 

[delilah]

Sorry I know nothing about the subject other than the RMC example, which I just thought you should be aware of to demonstrate the pitfalls, as it were.

 

[dannewhouse]

Sorry I know nothing about the subject other than the RMC example, which I just thought you should be aware of to demonstrate the pitfalls, as it were.

It's welcomed I know it's not without rush but what is in life?
As long as it's balanced and mitigated where possible.

 

[betweenthelines]

~Have you ever listened to The Archers?

It's a tongue-in-cheek reference to a storyline where a farmer is nearly ruined after chemicals were dumped in his on-farm landfill site.

Pointing out the possible pitfalls of what you propose.

 

[Daddy Pig]

It costs £15 a tonne to tip at Stewarts Exeter

 

[Richy12]

Contact Thomas or Elizabeth crompton.