Landfill sale price?

[lloyd]

Thanks,.
A lot of a little has changed

Network rail are altering the railway so looking for a tip.
It has been calculated to bring my field to a sensible shape (not a mound)
We would take 90,000 ton.

Any ideas on a sensible price if they were to run the tip IE they man the dozer etc job is literally 1 field length from their dig.

I was thinking £3 per ton?

I bet your a long way from their thinking but interesting thread
so please keep us updated.

 

[PI Stsker]

Thanks,.
A lot of a little has changed

Network rail are altering the railway so looking for a tip.
It has been calculated to bring my field to a sensible shape (not a mound)
We would take 90,000 ton.

Any ideas on a sensible price if they were to run the tip IE they man the dozer etc job is literally 1 field length from their dig.

I was thinking £3 per ton?

If there running it, doing the paper work doing the actual earth moving etc you’ll be looking at about a pound a ton for the pleasure of letting them tip it there, might be super lucky to get two quid a ton if it’s super convenient no road haulage etc. (how ever I think you may be dreaming If you want network rail to do it all; they arnt involved in all that and will subcontract that out taking another slice of profit off the top)

Just for Christ sake make sure it’s all inert non contaminated stuff coming in (I.e. clay / sub soil) anything else will need leachate catchment pits, soil samples, water samples etc which will inhibit your ability to actually ever farm that land again. Granted if you went down that route it would be more money but from what I’ve skimmed off this thread you effectively just want to make a field flat and more useable.

 

[Gwilmo1986]

Thanks,.
A lot of a little has changed

Network rail are altering the railway so looking for a tip.
It has been calculated to bring my field to a sensible shape (not a mound)
We would take 90,000 ton.

Any ideas on a sensible price if they were to run the tip IE they man the dozer etc job is literally 1 field length from their dig.

I was thinking £3 per ton?

Hi, You might struggle to get £3/t if your expecting them to run the tip and supply the machines and man power as well. I would also think network rail would steer well clear of operating it themselves. I cant imagine for 1 minute they would want to get involved in running a tip. Usually you would partner with a Muck shifter to operate the tip. Then obviously which ever Muck shifter does the muck off site on to the railway job, you'd set an agreement up with them to run the material into the farm, providing its all inert.

 

[lloyd]

You'd also want to look in to the tax payable with a good accountant as you sound like your
keeping the ground not selling it and rolling it over.

 

[br jones]

Thanks,.
A lot of a little has changed

Network rail are altering the railway so looking for a tip.
It has been calculated to bring my field to a sensible shape (not a mound)
We would take 90,000 ton.

Any ideas on a sensible price if they were to run the tip IE they man the dozer etc job is literally 1 field length from their dig.

I was thinking £3 per ton?

whats their other options ? if they have to cart it 10 miles ?

 

[PI Stsker]

whats their other options ? if they have to cart it 10 miles ?

You’ve obviously never dealt with companies like network rail, amey, national grid etc.

The hassle factor isn’t factored in to their price.
if there price guidelines say £2 they won’t give you £2.10… they would rather pay £2 else where but pay an extra quid a ton in haulage. The lights are on but no body is home with most of these companies.

 

[br jones]

You’ve obviously never dealt with companies like network rail, amey, national grid etc.

The hassle factor isn’t factored in to their price.
if there price guidelines say £2 they won’t give you £2.10… they would rather pay £2 else where but pay an extra quid a ton in haulage. The lights are on but no body is home with most of these companies.

feck em then

 

[d williams]

Thanks,.
A lot of a little has changed

Network rail are altering the railway so looking for a tip.
It has been calculated to bring my field to a sensible shape (not a mound)
We would take 90,000 ton.

Any ideas on a sensible price if they were to run the tip IE they man the dozer etc job is literally 1 field length from their dig.

I was thinking £3 per ton?

You may squeeze them a bit more if they don’t have to put it on a lorry and can use dump trucks
We was 5/ton tipped on site 100load for 8 wheeler

 

[Nearly]

You’ve obviously never dealt with companies like network rail, amey, national grid etc.

The hassle factor isn’t factored in to their price.
if there price guidelines say £2 they won’t give you £2.10… they would rather pay £2 else where but pay an extra quid a ton in haulage. The lights are on but no body is home with most of these companies.

Not their money, they don't care.

Is that the Hudds to Sheff rail line? We've a lump alongside that too.

 

[dannewhouse]

You may squeeze them a bit more if they don’t have to put it on a lorry and can use dump trucks
We was 5/ton tipped on site 100load for 8 wheeler

Was that with you doing the tip "management" or them?

We're on the Huddersfield to Leeds side of the electrification of the route seems as over budget as HS2 and at least as chaotic

 

[d williams]

Was that with you doing the tip "management" or them?

We're on the Huddersfield to Leeds side of the electrification of the route seems as over budget as HS2 and at least as chaotic

Yes us pushing over but tipped at use

 

[Forever Fendt]

Form a ltd company and sell the area of land to the ltd company and you retain a ransom strip all around it

 

[Coximus]

I think £2 a tonne is hope money - they're unlikely to give you more than the land is worth or they would just buy their own elsewhere - and they won't budge. A realistic amount would be between 50p-£1 a ton at the moment as theirs alot of recycliig operations using up inert demoliition fill - meaning alot of quarries fighting on price for a tipped grab wagon load. ( I know Temple quarry near you are doing £180-in-out with muck out full of Clean crushed concrete) - it means whats often tipped is the clay/fireclay subsoil and the stuff you dont want to be on your land.

As others have said - if your going to do it - set up a LTD and sell the land to it- grant yourself and option to buy the land back for £1 at any future time you want - and make sure the jobs all good and safe from prosecution (Statute of limitations etc) before buying it back for a £.

keep legal distance from infill works - you can guarantee if anything bad happens NR wont pick up the tab.

 

[warksfarmer]

Muck away around here is now £220 - £280 per load which is approx 16 tonnes. That's getting rid of a pile of crap though such as clay mixed in with bricks etc. Just had 8 loads removed from a building site.

The only way you will know this is done right is to operate it yourself. Payment before its tipped and any dirty loads have to be taken away and you keep the upfront payment for reloading the truck.