Late 2nd wheat or oats?

[Renaultman]

I have a field that might, just might, be fit to drill at the back end of the week. It is down for oats but am starting to wonder what yield I might hope for from a 2nd wheat?
It is only a small stupid field and would bring it back in to the same rotation as the bigger one beside it.
Thoughts please

 

[cotswoldcs]

I'm thinking the same. I have Gleam WW in stock which can be planted up to middle of Feb. Not sure about yield of late planted wheat as we've never done it before (at least not that late)!

 

[cousinjack]

Go with wheat,
Oats is overdone at the moment ..

IMO

 

[Dan Mac]

I'm thinking the same. I have Gleam WW in stock which can be planted up to middle of Feb. Not sure about yield of late planted wheat as we've never done it before (at least not that late)!

Presumably take all risk is much lower with later drilling ?

 

[Renaultman]

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Go with wheat,
Oats is overdone at the moment ..

IMO

That's another issue, that and quality issues with spring drilled oats

 

[teslacoils]

Wheat.

 

[Renaultman]

Thanks all.

 

[Wombat]

Hopefully I might get some first and second wheats drilled this week ?‍

 

[Renaultman]

Hopefully I might get some first and second wheats drilled this week ?‍

I still have a field of first wheat to go in too but it might end up being in spring beans

 

[Cowcorn]

I have a field that might, just might, be fit to drill at the back end of the week. It is down for oats but am starting to wonder what yield I might hope for from a 2nd wheat?
It is only a small stupid field and would bring it back in to the same rotation as the bigger one beside it.
Thoughts please

I think youre in Yorkshire ? It depends how far north you are wheat drilled at the end of the week will probably be cut in late Sept in a dull year as a second wheat it wont break any records but will probably wash its face . My experience with planting ww in Feb and once in March hasnt been great in 93 it was October before it was cut and the March Experiment in the early noughties struggled to break out of the vegative stage and was November before it was fit to cut. A few very dry days allowed it to be harvested albeit at high moisture. Short advice go ahead but if you get delayed into Feb seeing as its a small field buy a bit of spring wheat seed of poacher before its all gone !!
On the other hand my prodigal casual Norman follows a alternative weather predictor who forecasts an 8 month drought starting in April so maybe all this Wheat going in at the moment will be the best of the Spring crops !! Toss a coin ????

 

[Renaultman]

Cheers I have a self imposed cut off point for wheat of the end of next week, and will plant Mascani oats off the heap after that. BTW Darlington is in the ancient county of Durham don't be confusing us with them Yorkies

 

[Cowcorn]

Cheers I have a self imposed cut off point for wheat of the end of next week, and will plant Mascani oats off the heap after that. BTW Darlington is in the ancient county of Durham don't be confusing us with them Yorkies

Sorry Renaultman wont make that mistake again !!!

 

[deleted user 837354]

Will oats stick being drilled into the cold and wet? I always thought they were less tolerant of punishment than wheat.

 

[Renaultman]

Will oats stick being drilled into the cold and wet? I always thought they were less tolerant of punishment than wheat.

I drilled some Feb last year, ideal conditions, but then it rained for a month. The field that is now waiting for wheat, a wet horrible field, it still did reasonably well, although I lost the bits that stand in water. I find them equally as resilient as wheat in my very limited experience of late winter drilling.

 

[teslacoils]

In general I find oats happier in less than ideal wet seedbeds. Not so much the cold though.

 

[bankrupt]

In general I find oats happier in less than ideal wet seedbeds. Not so much the cold though.

Oats are critically at risk from frost just after sprouting and before emergence.

Had this do for some of ours in March 2013.