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Lower disturbance subsoiler

Northdowns Martin

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Arable Farmer
Location
Snodland kent
Need to ‘lift’ a few field post harvest, looking at my current options in the machinery paddock I have a Sumo Trio, Carrier and a Heva 5 leg subsoiler. My guess is Heva would be best, but worried about the amount of disturbance. Would changing the legs and point help reduce? I’m thinking something like Metcalfe or Tillso
 

alomy75

Member
There’s an old thread about exactly this somewhere on here; various options of discs in front of the subsoiler; levelling paddles on the back etc along with LD legs. Personally I quite like the look of the opico stealth but haven’t seen one up close and personal yet. I have simba LD’s in a flatliner ; a 5 leg version with full width wings/full length legs and a 7 leg where for this year I’ve cut half of the wing-width off. Legs are closer and shallower on this machine. Plus I’ve just obtained some Great Plains opener discs so going to try bodging one on each machine to see if they make a difference.
 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator
Moderator
Need to ‘lift’ a few field post harvest, looking at my current options in the machinery paddock I have a Sumo Trio, Carrier and a Heva 5 leg subsoiler. My guess is Heva would be best, but worried about the amount of disturbance. Would changing the legs and point help reduce? I’m thinking something like Metcalfe or Tillso

Lupins. Forget the subsoiler idea.
 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator
Moderator
Do lupins open the soil up, only ever known a neighbour grow them about 20yrs ago and didn’t seem a great success

I had an area ( about an acre ) that Network Rail used all winter to park machines on ( on aluminium tracking) to replace a railway bridge. Had cranes big enough to lift the bridge, 8 wheelers, dumpers and 10 million vans ( although probably only two vans with people that actually did any work ) on the area until late April. I decided that it was a bit late to do anything useful with so planted a cover crop of triticale, wheat, oats, vetch, mustard and Lupins, basically all the odd bits of seed I had left over. Nothing apart from the Lupins grew but they were so good I actually harvested them. Had a crop in it ever since and I’d defy anyone to tell me where the soil had been damaged.
I noted that one of the cover crop suppliers were suggesting that tillage radish had rooting potential nearly equal to a Lupin, based on my experience I’d suggest that the Lupin is a useful tool in the dd armoury especially when coupled with its N fixing and root exudates that make P more available to the following crop.
 

Bob lincs

Member
Arable Farmer
Fit quivogne LD legs to your Heva . A cheap and easy solution.
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Fish

Member
Location
North yorkshire
If you gonna get the quivogne, get the one’s with tungsten tiles, it will last way longer.

Got one here, Quivogne SCD, 5 legs with a gutter packer, hasn’t been used for years, as I proved to my own satisfaction years ago, that it’s a waste of blo*dy time.
 

alomy75

Member
I do worry about rotational issues with some of these cover crops; lupins are a legume for the pea and bean growers and tillage radish is a brassica for the osr growers. All three of these crops are sensitive to being grown too close together. When I look at the Somme after the beet harvester has gone I struggle to think any crop will repair that before the spring…
 

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