M22x1.5 heater plug

Mur Huwcun

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North West Wales
Is it a glow plug or thermostarter? M18 glow plugs are available for Mercedes that are used to convert IH 275,434s etc.

Or source a threaded bush or an m22 plug and drill and tap it for m12 to fit car plugs?
 

davedb

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Location
Staffordshire
It’s got nothing atm but I could put a little pot on and a fuel supply of the leak offs easy enough I’ve pulled a bung out the inlet manifold and that’s m22x1.5 do wounder weather it should advance the rack on the pump or something as standard? Not that familiar with these engines
 

davedb

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Location
Staffordshire
Does it have an excess fuel button ?
Not that I can see but the electric fuel stop is disconnected and I’ve allways used the manual lever but reading online if the fuel stop solenoid is still in place and not connected it can cause them to not start so I wounder if it’s holding the rack a bit ?
 

 

john432

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Location
Carmarthenshire
I'd just fit the glow plug as above in the air intake, you'll probably need an extra solenoid to power it. Too much of a current draw for the key switch.
Off topic , but why don't manufacturers winterize a bit of machines for the UK market! Neighbors Case skid steer 435, 2006 model. Slow starting , to the point that on a real frosty morning he'd have to connect jump leads. Too our astonishment, even though there is a yellow heat light on the dash, that goes out after some 20 seconds, there was no heater fitted to the engine. All those 20 seconds wasted! A bit of searching and I managed to find the complete kit , including the intake grid heater, the solenoid, the cables and fixing clips and instructions on American eBay. .but changing the starter motor has already made a massive difference , starts easily now.
 

ACEngineering

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Trade
Location
Oxon
Engine is a F3L 1U11 if that means anything to anyone? Failing this @ACEngineering can you get geared starters for these

If it is an 0 not a U then i have cross ref that IS565 to this Iskra gear reduction one which is cheaper and better, its 11 tooth and about 330mm long up to where it bolts to the bell housing.



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Timbo

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Location
Gods County
I'd just fit the glow plug as above in the air intake, you'll probably need an extra solenoid to power it. Too much of a current draw for the key switch.
Off topic , but why don't manufacturers winterize a bit of machines for the UK market! Neighbors Case skid steer 435, 2006 model. Slow starting , to the point that on a real frosty morning he'd have to connect jump leads. Too our astonishment, even though there is a yellow heat light on the dash, that goes out after some 20 seconds, there was no heater fitted to the engine. All those 20 seconds wasted! A bit of searching and I managed to find the complete kit , including the intake grid heater, the solenoid, the cables and fixing clips and instructions on American eBay. .but changing the starter motor has already made a massive difference , starts easily now.


Sounds like a Cummins 4bt !
 

john432

Member
Location
Carmarthenshire
Sounds like a Cummins 4bt !
Your probably correct. This is a quote I found about the said engine
"For what it's worth, there is a Cummins 3BT AKA 334T/M2 which is a three cyl 3.3L turbo diesel. It is essentially a 6.7 that has been cut in half. It comes in Case/ New Holland skid steers and makes about 80 HP and 225 ft/lbs of torque. "
The Cummins engines are into their electrical grid heaters in the intake to the manifold by the look of things.
 

ACEngineering

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Trade
Location
Oxon
Your probably correct. This is a quote I found about the said engine
"For what it's worth, there is a Cummins 3BT AKA 334T/M2 which is a three cyl 3.3L turbo diesel. It is essentially a 6.7 that has been cut in half. It comes in Case/ New Holland skid steers and makes about 80 HP and 225 ft/lbs of torque. "
The Cummins engines are into their electrical grid heaters in the intake to the manifold by the look of things.

The Iveco NEF engine is a copy of the Cummins and the NEF often have a grid heater on the intake and a heater in the top of the fuel filter, often they are not even wired up! I fit a Iskra 4.2kw starter on them and that sorts them out.
 

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