Major Sugar Beet Contractor & Haulier in Administration

Speedstar

Member
Location
Scottish Borders
It is working fine now, But looking at that list you would have thought most of that kit the age it is would have been paid for , must of had a lot of new kit taken back to be in the place they are now, or is it a case of new company no debt start trading again like has happen a lot in the past.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
I should say there will be some bargains

It is working fine now, But looking at that list you would have thought most of that kit the age it is would have been paid for , must of had a lot of new kit taken back to be in the place they are now, or is it a case of new company no debt start trading again like has happen a lot in the past.

Might be bought by the "new company" if that is what has happened.
 
3000 acres, £90/acre you get what you pay for. Plenty of contractors can get beet off in good conditions the real skilled operators will save your hide when things get tricky
Centre ,but we have bought a good second hand 6 row and only got 500 acre to lift so could come and do some could do it for 85 acre but if you rally stint my arm will di it for 80 , this comment is very tongue in cheek but in reality this is what happens is it not So no chance of getting your 90 . Just done some ploughing for neighbour He drew breathe at price ,so said does he want it ploughing at 10 inch as he requested or do it for less and plough it like his last man at 4/6 inch ,
 

Centre

Member
Location
Cambs
Centre ,but we have bought a good second hand 6 row and only got 500 acre to lift so could come and do some could do it for 85 acre but if you rally stint my arm will di it for 80 , this comment is very tongue in cheek but in reality this is what happens is it not So no chance of getting your 90 . Just done some ploughing for neighbour He drew breathe at price ,so said does he want it ploughing at 10 inch as he requested or do it for less and plough it like his last man at 4/6 inch ,
No doubt and they can fill their boots. Again it comes back to years when the soil is so hard that inadequate or old tech cannot get the beet out of the ground or the other end of the scale when it is so wet that you end up with nothing but soil in the heap, poorly tipped heaps and a mess getting them loaded. NFU are quite concerned that the skilled operators are quietly packing up, British Sugar should be too as it will be the difference between them getting a constant supply of beet in adverse years. Like i said it is the tricky going that sort the men from the boys and there is no doubt now that beet is being grown on some very heavy land.
 
No doubt and they can fill their boots. Again it comes back to years when the soil is so hard that inadequate or old tech cannot get the beet out of the ground or the other end of the scale when it is so wet that you end up with nothing but soil in the heap, poorly tipped heaps and a mess getting them loaded. NFU are quite concerned that the skilled operators are quietly packing up, British Sugar should be too as it will be the difference between them getting a constant supply of beet in adverse years. Like i said it is the tricky going that sort the men from the boys and there is no doubt now that beet is being grown on some very heavy land.
Aaah but a skilled man like you say could pull beet with an old Rapide used to put spade lugs on to keep going and just been playing with old cyclone ,just sold it to a collector , As I have always said it's the man make th the machine what ever it maybe A modern harvester will shovel it up And then the f**kers ran all over neighbours stewardship because it's easier than going round field he was not happy ,and is to sort out , don't think the giant machines are the way forward Smaller and more attention to detail ,
 

Spud

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Arable Farmer
Location
YO62
3
3000 acres, £90/acre you get what you pay for. Plenty of contractors can get beet off in good conditions the real skilled operators will save your hide when things get tricky
3000ac? Gonna be busy at that, unless the fields are big and the going is good. If it doesn't stack up at £90 over 2000ac, jobs a bad un. Too much shiny 'professionalism' shoving the costs up.
Lots of big kit (30' combines being one example) is so dear it has to be run to its absolute limit to meet its payments, resulting in a high break even workload, and lots of knackered big kit on a shrinking second hand market. How long before low demand (meaning low trade in values) of huge kit starts to dictate that two smaller machines make more sense than one monster?
 

Spud

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
YO62
Aaah but a skilled man like you say could pull beet with an old Rapide used to put spade lugs on to keep going and just been playing with old cyclone ,just sold it to a collector , As I have always said it's the man make th the machine what ever it maybe A modern harvester will shovel it up And then the fudgeers ran all over neighbours stewardship because it's easier than going round field he was not happy ,and is to sort out , don't think the giant machines are the way forward Smaller and more attention to detail ,

Theres a limit though surely, I dont see a mass return to single row catchpoles and cyclones anytime soon!
 

nick...

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
3

3000ac? Gonna be busy at that, unless the fields are big and the going is good. If it doesn't stack up at £90 over 2000ac, jobs a bad un. Too much shiny 'professionalism' shoving the costs up.
Lots of big kit (30' combines being one example) is so dear it has to be run to its absolute limit to meet its payments, resulting in a high break even workload, and lots of knackered big kit on a shrinking second hand market. How long before low demand (meaning low trade in values) of huge kit starts to dictate that two smaller machines make more sense than one monster?
I think this is already beginning to happen.very little secondhand market for massive machines that are often worn out
Nick...
 
Why more compaction. Euro tiger might have 6 huge wheels but still 10 ton an axle. Been ploughing a beet field and other half was barley at neighbours fuel per hour dropped 13 litres on grain stubble and beet land has ploughed over really mean. Was supposed to have been lifted 2 weeks ago Can still get new 3 row harvesters. Not cheap 100 k
 

nick...

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Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
Id imagine the 3row harvesters woukd have narrow wheels to get between the rows but i may be wrong.when we were using a 3row lifter many moons ago about a third of the field woukd get run on.
Nick...
 

carbonfibre farmer

Member
Arable Farmer
Id imagine the 3row harvesters woukd have narrow wheels to get between the rows but i may be wrong.when we were using a 3row lifter many moons ago about a third of the field woukd get run on.
Nick...

Work in lands so only opening up that runs on top of rows as @robbie explained.

Once going make bugger all mess. (Though if wet a different story same as any harvester....)

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Cousin lifts ours at Morley with one of them (just got a low worked second hand one for this season.only 400 acres from new)
Whereas at home we have John orford with his 6 row vervant, so able to compare between the two ......
 

carbonfibre farmer

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Arable Farmer
Carbon is that the tt800 what was at camp sea ash ?
Quite possibly.
Cant Remember sale particulars :banghead:Thought he brought it spring time at a sale I saw advertised. Showed him the advert on my phone and then I promptly forgot all about It....
It mentioned in the sale details it had only lifted 400 acres. He remarked he had to bid well for it but his old T7 done a hell of a lot of work so was looking for replacement but new price :eek::eek::eek:.
Saw him at shropham sale and he said it had been running well.
 

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