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I wouldn't stress about international trade, most have no concept of how to produce lamb for the domestic market either.
it does seem easier to complain about “unfair advantages” & needing more payments . . .
I wouldn't stress about international trade, most have no concept of how to produce lamb for the domestic market either.
The UK, with its relatively central location & climate, SHOULD be a major world producer & exporter of lamb, rivalling NZ & Australia. You have a massive population on your doorstep, & USED to be a sea faring, trading nation . . .
what’s happened ?
why aren’t you now ?
it does seem easier to complain about “unfair advantages” & needing more payments . . .
Hes not a farmer.Roger Fletcher ( biggest sheep meat processor here ) sends container loads of lambs oesophagi to China, just for a start . . .
As an aside, everyone SHOULD be aware that ASF has wiped out about half of the Chinese pig population.
They are replacing that meat with mostly, imported LAMB & beef, partly because of any perceived health concerns from eating pork.
Savvy marketing & export nations are already taking advantage of this, but sadly, from everything I have read on TFF, the UK idea of marketing is to produce something then expect people to buy it.
What I find most shocking is that I was watching videos of pigs being buried alive in China due to ASF months ago (July?) and only now people are realising that ASF is happening...Ok, Australia is a major world exporter of lamb meat
IF we assume that supply is down due to climatic conditions & agree that prices currently are at historic highs, then I have just ONE question
WHY aren’t UK lamb producers clamouring over each other to fill OUR export markets - especially the recent massive one in China ?
Why ?
reading this thread it seems some are too busy stressing about sub payments or something, rather than taking advantage of the massive worldwide shortage of lamb
yet again, it shows that UK ag, both livestock & grain producers & their industry representatives have NO concept international trade or how to market their produce
What I find most shocking is that I was watching videos of pigs being buried alive in China due to ASF months ago (July?) and only now people are realising that ASF is happening...
Payments are the problem. Subs have stagnated the industry and strangle innovation. Why strive to improve things and under go change when you can do what you've always done, taking comfort in the knowledge the tax payer will maintain your standard of living?
Payments are the problem. Subs have stagnated the industry and strangle innovation. Why strive to improve things and under go change when you can do what you've always done, taking comfort in the knowledge the tax payer will maintain your standard of living?
"Should" is always a dangerous word, in the countryside.The UK, with its relatively central location & climate, SHOULD be a major world producer & exporter of lamb, rivalling NZ & Australia. You have a massive population on your doorstep, & USED to be a sea faring, trading nation . . .
what’s happened ?
why aren’t you now ?
Errr, were part of the EU. We aren't allowed to do our own trade deals, that's up to the EU and they take 10years to put some down on paper which then needs all member states to agree.The UK, with its relatively central location & climate, SHOULD be a major world producer & exporter of lamb, rivalling NZ & Australia. You have a massive population on your doorstep, & USED to be a sea faring, trading nation . . .
what’s happened ?
why aren’t you now ?
Errr, were part of the EU. We aren't allowed to do our own trade deals, that's up to the EU and they take 10years to put some down on paper which then needs all member states to agree.
But then, why would the EU want the UK to get a good trading deal outside of their group if it was to affect their supply that they have come accustomed to?
Have you ever been involved with export certificates? I have been involved with EHC’s for exports of sheep, ram semen & embryos. If there is an EU certificate in place, it’s already relatively simple, even more so if trading within the EU.
However, if you want to trade with countries outside the EU, where there isn’t a health certificate in place, it is perfectly possible for the UK to organise it’s own, usually more or less copying the Requirements of most EU certificates. That process is often like running a marathon through waste deep mud though, with OUR LOT seemingly holding everything up at every stage. It is incredibly frustrating for everyone involved, and I have had a couple of large deals that have fallen by the wayside as a result of getting bogged down by DEFRA.
"OUR LOT" have an awful lot to answer for.
And moving forward they become accountable and will have to produce answers not pass the buck ."OUR LOT" have an awful lot to answer for.
Do you think Nige has enough about him to cut unnecessary red tape to help industry?Past experience certainly doesn’t fill me with hope that all the promises new trade deals are going to happen as quickly as Boris & Nige keep promising.
And moving forward they become accountable and will have to produce answers not pass the buck .
Do you think Nige has enough about him to cut unnecessary red tape to help industry?
We're screwed then. I'd have thought fararge might have done something different as I wouldn't believe the others to cut red tape.1. Of course he won't, but he'll likely promise it the same as Conservative candidates always have in the past.
2. He doesn't have a cat in hell's chance of being in government to implement any plans anyway.